WW2 Staff Cars

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by morrisc8, Mar 30, 2012.

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  1. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    Here is a start Ford, Pre war Humber [split screen] and war time Humbers, US staff car. Humber box.
    Keith
    ford staff car r.jpg humber pre war..jpg staff cars r.jpg
     
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  2. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    One more
    Keith
    water well drilling RE ww2 photo 23 by staff car .jpg
     
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  3. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I might be stretching staff car with the Command vehicles, but what the hell... Haven't checked the types either, so expect errors.

    Said to be Patton's Cadillac post-crash:
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    His WC57 Command car from happier times:
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    Zhukov & a 56:
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    Alanbrooke and a ?:
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    Mixed staff (Humber?)
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    THE BRITISH ARMY IN ITALY 1943 | Imperial War Museums

    Skoda 903:
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    A few modern preservations/recreations:
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    Ford?
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    One of Monty's Rollers:
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    And of course, Rommel's remarkable Horch preservation:
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    von Poop, Apr 2, 2012
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  4. ceolredmonger

    ceolredmonger Member

    Thanks for a useful thread Morrisc8, this subject could do with some coverage and clarity. At risk of appearing churlish, what makes a car a 'staff car' rather than a 'unit hack'. Pre-Jeep, and later for rear/training units and many RAF and Naval bases, small saloon cars were hard working workhorses and a real credit to the British automotive industry. The majority of the passengers would not have been 'red tabs' - I love your picnic scene.

    Cheers
    Keith
     
    ceolredmonger, Apr 3, 2012
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  5. lesfreathy

    lesfreathy Member

    Nice idea Keith i am sure there are lots of photos about on this subject. here are a Morris 8and i will let you guys have a go at the yank job in british service in the middle east
    cheers
    Les
     

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  6. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    Another thread subscription. :)
     
    Dave55, Apr 9, 2012
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  7. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I had that 'what is a staff car' thought myself, Keith. Which is why I felt a tad guilty at posting the WCs - should a 'Staff Car' be an essentially Civvy machine? Or does that preclude Tillys etc. which certainly often carried some appropriate passengers. I think we might have to put too careful a distinction aside and crack on with the pictures.

    'Dienstwagen' on Bundesarchiv turns up some goodies, if a tad ante-bellum round the edges (obtain picture data from codes on images):-
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    And the IWM (who now have handy BB code embedding)
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    THE BRITISH ARMY IN NORTH-WEST EUROPE 1944-45. © IWM (BU 552)IWM Non Commercial Licence

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    CAMOUFLAGE DURING THE FIRST WORLD WAR. © IWM (Q 25878)IWM Non Commercial Licence

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    BRITISH MILITARY VEHICLES 1918-1939. © IWM (KID 1589)IWM Non Commercial Licence

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    BRITISH MILITARY VEHICLES 1918-1939. © IWM (KID 3517)IWM Non Commercial Licence

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    BRITISH MILITARY VEHICLES 1918-1939. © IWM (KID 2741)IWM Non Commercial Licence

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    MINISTRY OF INFORMATION FIRST WORLD WAR OFFICIAL COLLECTION. © IWM (Q 1288)IWM Non Commercial Licence

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    THE BRITISH ARMY IN FRANCE 1940. © IWM (F 4297)IWM Non Commercial Licence

    Dozens more on there, their new site seems to be making tons more photos available than the previous. More power to 'em.
     
    von Poop, Apr 13, 2012
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  8. May1940

    May1940 Senior Member

    Nice idea Keith i am sure there are lots of photos about on this subject. here are a Morris 8and i will let you guys have a go at the yank job in british service in the middle east
    cheers
    Les

    Another picture of that Morris 8 appeared in an article by Mike Conniford on bridge numbers in Military Modelling a long time ago. I wonder if there are any more?

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=80175&stc=1&d=1334341923

    Andrew
     

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  9. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    new type of german staff car and a Humber
    Keith
    new type of german car.jpg humber-pullman-staff-car-d.jpg
     
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  10. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    One more original photo from my collection, taken in Italy 1945.
    Keith
    staff car italy 1945.jpg
     
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  11. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    von Poop, Nov 11, 2012
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  12. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    My 1938 Humber car and a war time photo of the same type of Humber with a spilt screen in 1941 with a ATS driver. [ i am not in any of the photos]
    Keith
    officer and sgt with humber.JPG IMG_2917.JPG humber staff car 1941.jpg
     
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  13. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    Pre war humber in german use, next to german staff cars. [ not a good photo ].
    Keith
    pre war humber in german use.jpg
     
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  14. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    I might as well post this one here.

    I can't remember where the photo came from and I am worried it originated on this forum before being saved to my laptop.

    Who are those blokes? Why is a dog driving the car?? Why is there a 10 year-old kid wearing uniform in the background????

    Listed as 451 (RAAF) SQN, Sinai 1943
     

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  15. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    Hi Dave. Cut backs to the service,;) its cheaper to pay a dog to drive [one bone a day]:rolleyes:.
    Keith
     
    morrisc8, Nov 12, 2012
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  16. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    our humber.
    Keith
    1938 humber.jpg 1938 humber car.jpg 1938 humber grilljpg.jpg
     
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  17. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Intrigued by the gate post to "Cam House" in the third photograph of post #12, I 'Googled' it.

    The likely candidate was Cam House on Camden Hill. After a string of aristocratic occupants, it was the subject of a sale of its contents in July 1939 and then requisitioned.

    It looks as if the gate posts were already rather knocked about when the photograph was taken and like so many large properties, was left in a poor state...

    "After being requisitioned for military use during the war of 1939–45 Cam House fell into disrepair. It was demolished in 1955 for the building of Holland Park School."
     
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  18. Combover

    Combover Guest

    our humber.
    Keith

    Good lord :wub:
     
    Combover, Jan 3, 2013
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  19. chick42-46

    chick42-46 Senior Member

    Here's a pic of my grandfather in a car after the end of the war in Europe. No idea what model it is. Family lore is he drove some big wigs around (but it is 2-door only). The car also seems to be left-hand drive!

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=368&pictureid=2982
     
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  20. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Keith.
    I've seen pics of 3rd Div's sign on vehicles on a red circle , was that early war only ?
     

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