WW1 Meets WW2 in Normandy

Discussion in 'NW Europe' started by Drew5233, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Again another picture from the Normandy Pictures link posted by Verries.

    This picture really stood out as I was flicking through 100's of photo's. To me the memorial is welcoming the American troops as they advance through 'his' town, Quite poinyant I thought.

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    Does anyone recognise the town (Long shot)? I think I'd like to do a 'then and now' of it sometime.

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I'll ask on WW2forum, few more Americans there & some other frequent Normandy visitors.
     
  3. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    That's odd - I thought I had posted a comment to this one!

    I would say it is somewhere in the St Lo area by the houses, which are more typical of the stonework found there and into Suisse-Normandie. I don't recognise the war memorial, unfortunately.
     
  4. Donnie

    Donnie Remembering HHWH

    Hi guys,

    The picture is taken in a small town called Creully in Normandy......i have another picture of the memorial during the war with american and british troops....

    Donnie
     
  5. Donnie

    Donnie Remembering HHWH

    Then and now?

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    Donnie
     
  6. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Hmm - I'm not sure that is Creully. I know the war memorial has the same figure, but that's actually a fairly standard design; I can think of a few in Northern France with that on. Plus the Americans never moved into Creully.
     
  7. Donnie

    Donnie Remembering HHWH

    Hi Paul,

    Upon futher insepection i agree with you but there were American Troops in Creully....


    Donnie
     
  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Good try but no cigar.
    Different place.
     
  9. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Hi Paul,

    Upon futher insepection i agree with you but there were American Troops in Creully....


    Donnie

    Which American units operated in Creully? Not come across any reference to that.
     
  10. Donnie

    Donnie Remembering HHWH

    Hi mate,

    Not to question you as you have far more knowlege than I do on the Normandy Campaign but i have a picture of Creully war memorial taken in 1944 and in the picture an american soldier and a british soldier are seen standing next to each other. In the right hand side an American Jeep. On the Creully memorial flies an American Flag. I cannot help with indervidual units Paul, i do apologise if wrong.....

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    Donnie
     
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  11. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

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    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/attachments/nw-europe/12034d1231243607-ww1-meets-ww2-normandy-donnies-jpg



    Donnie, nice then & now you did there.
    building the same so deffo rules out the one Drew posted.
     

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  12. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Hi mate,

    Not to question you as you have far more knowlege than I do on the Normandy Campaign but i have a picture of Creully war memorial taken in 1944 and in the picture an american soldier and a british soldier are seen standing next to each other. In the right hand side an American Jeep. On the Creully memorial flies an American Flag. I cannot help with indervidual units Paul, i do apologise if wrong.....

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    Donnie

    Nicely found Donnie - certainly proves the US were there!!
     
  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    They don't look very 'Tooled up'. Could he be a US Press Corps man having a wonder around in the rear with the gear some days after D-Day?

    Theres a well dressesd RMP to the left of the Jeep giving directions :)

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  14. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Same figure here but none fit the bill.


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  15. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    I found it by typing 'monument au morts+obus+Normandie' into Google.fr.

    This took me to a photo set on flickr where this one is shown with the following caption:

    Un tank destroyer (TD) américain traverse la place sous le regard de quelques civils alors que des GI'S progressent à pied; place du Monument devant le Monument aux morts à Lonlay L'Abbaye.
    Cette place porte aujourd'hui le nom de Jules Levée, mort en déportation.

    An American Tank Destroyer (TD) moves across the square under the eyes of several civilians, while the GIs move up on foot; Monument Square is in front of the war memorial of Lonlay l'Abbaye. This place today is called Jules Levee, died as a deportee. (my translation)

    Pre-war postcard of it:

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  19. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Cheers chaps......Just tried to leave a rep or two but it says I've been to generous in the last 24hrs !

    Anyone would think there was a recession on :unsure:

    Slightly off topic regarding the pic Donnie posted.

    The Jeep may be British even with those markings. I was reading the brilliant D-Day book tonight and there was a article stating that in May all vehicles under the command of Eisenhower to be used in D-Day were instructed to be painted with the white star on the sides and the top to help with them being identified by Allied forces.

    Cheers for all your comments etc.
    Andy
     
  20. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    ps 'Lonlay l'Abbaye' is a fair way inland according to Google Earth :rolleyes:

    Cheers
    Andy
     

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