WW II Roll of Honour

Discussion in 'Non-Commemorated War Dead' started by Gerry Chester, Feb 8, 2009.

  1. Gerry Chester

    Gerry Chester WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Hi,

    Does anyone have official references as to the criteria determining the inclusion of a casuality on a Roll of Honour?

    Unofficially I an told that the casuality must have died due to enemy action or from an accident occuring during his enlistment. Additionally, if either occurred whilst in service with the unit to which he was first posted, or while serving in a unit to which he was subsequently posted, his name shall appear on the Rolls of Honour of both.

    My reason for asking is due a reluctance to include the names of three on the NIH Roll of Honour. For details please see:
    WW II

    Any help will be much appreciated.

    Gerry
     
  2. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Hi Gerry,
    I moved your query to the 'Non-commemorated; section as it seems appropriate to here. Maybe Chris or someone who's specialised in such criteria will have the gen on it.

    Cheers,
    Adam.
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Hi Gerry,

    I think Chrisharley9 maybe able to help you on this one if no one posts on here.

    Cheers
    Andy

    60 seconds to slow :D
     
  4. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    Hi,

    Does anyone have official references as to the criteria determining the inclusion of a casuality on a Roll of Honour?

    Unofficially I an told that the casuality must have died due to enemy action or from an accident occuring during his enlistment. Additionally, if either occurred whilst in service with the unit to which he was first posted, or while serving in a unit to which he was subsequently posted, his name shall appear on the Rolls of Honour of both.

    My reason for asking is due a reluctance to include the names of three on the NIH Roll of Honour. For details please see:
    WW II

    Any help will be much appreciated.

    Gerry

    The three are commemorated by CWGC. To qualify for this they must have either died due to any cause while still in service between 3.9.1939 and 31.12.1947, or due to a condition caused by or exacerbated by service if discharged within this period.
    You need to find out what is the Official criteria for inclusion in NIH ROH. Who set it up, what are the rules for inclusion? Perhaps these three don't meet the unofficial conditions you mentioned.
     
  5. Gerry Chester

    Gerry Chester WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    The three are commemorated by CWGC. To qualify for this they must have either died due to any cause while still in service between 3.9.1939 and 31.12.1947, or due to a condition caused by or exacerbated by service if discharged within this period.
    You need to find out what is the Official criteria for inclusion in NIH ROH. Who set it up, what are the rules for inclusion? Perhaps these three don't meet the unofficial conditions you mentioned.

    Thank you Geoff you response is greatly appreciated

    Both the troopers, who crewed the same tank, were badly burned and evacuated to the UK. Sadly neither recovered and, in reponse of requests from the families, were buried in their hometown cemeteries.

    As the practice was to strike casualities needing longtime hospital care off unit rolls, these two of the NIH were ones that slipped through the cracks, as did
    so many serving world wide. This, probably combined with the fact that the Roll of Honour was published in early 1946 may wll be the cause for their omission.

    Diane, in a pm informs m that 2nd Lt. Townson's name is on the Army RoH. her input coupled with yours hopefully will get things moving!

    Warmest regards,

    Gerry
     
  6. Gerry Chester

    Gerry Chester WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    The three are commemorated by CWGC. To qualify for this they must have either died due to any cause while still in service between 3.9.1939 and 31.12.1947, or due to a condition caused by or exacerbated by service if discharged within this period.
    You need to find out what is the Official criteria for inclusion in NIH ROH. Who set it up, what are the rules for inclusion? Perhaps these three don't meet the unofficial conditions you mentioned.

    Thank you Geoff you response is greatly appreciated

    Both the troopers, who crewed the same tank, were badly burned and evacuated to the UK. Sadly neither recovered and, in reponse of requests from the families, were buried in their hometown cemeteries.

    As the practice was to strike casualities needing longtime hospital care off unit rolls, these two of the NIH were ones that slipped through the cracks, as did
    so many serving world wide. This, probably combined with the fact that the Roll of Honour was published in early 1946 may wll be the cause for their ommision.

    Diane, in a pm informs m that 2nd Lt. Townson's name is on the Army RoH. her input coupled with yours hopefully will get things moving!

    Warmest regards,

    Gerry











    should convince our Regimental Historian the three should be added.

    Warmest regards,

    Gerry



    Diane, in a pm advises me that 2nd Lt. Townson's name in on the on the Army RoH.
     
  7. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    A small but significant correction to my first sentence, which should end:

    ....if discharged and died within this period.

    No death, under any circumstances, can be considered if it was after 31.12.1947
     

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