Witney Church Spire Crash 1942

Discussion in 'Airborne' started by Stanley_C_Jenkins, Jul 6, 2010.

  1. Stanley_C_Jenkins

    Stanley_C_Jenkins Junior Member

    On 2nd September 1942. A Miles Master II tug (DL425) with a Hotspur glider on tow, which had taken off from No.2 Glider Training School at Weston-on-the-Green was seen to be in trouble by local residents, failing to gain height and heading for the 157 ft spire of St Mary’s church. The pilot of the glider, realising that the tug was about to collide with the spire, cast off. The Master hit the church tower and crashed in flames in Mr Marriott’s garden on the east side of Church Green.

    The glider landed safely on Cogges Hill, about a mile to the east, and the pilot, having jumped out shaken but unharmed, ran back towards Witney in full flying kit to assist at the crash site. Sadly, the two occupants of the tug, 1332963 Sergeant (Pilot) George Couch of Sutton in Surrey, and 1237828 Leading Aircraftman Victor Rodger of East Ham, died in the conflagration. The top of the spire was missing and the chancel roof had been damaged by falling masonry.


    I was wondering if an enquiry (or inquests?) would have been held and, if so, was the cause of the accident ever established? The dislodged weather vane can, as a matter of interest, be seen today in the Witney & District Museum.
     
  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    hello Stanley the 2 casualties below.Im sure a forum member will be able to add more info.

    Sergeant GEORGE FREDERICK HOBERTON COUCH

    1332963, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    who died age 19
    on 02 September 1942
    Son of Frederick William and Edith Isabel Couch, of Sutton.
    Remembered with honour
    SOUTH LONDON CREMATORIUM, MITCHAM

    Leading Aircraftman VICTOR FREDERICK RODGER

    1237828, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    who died age 19
    on 02 September 1942
    Son of Robert and May Isobel Rodger, of East Ham.
    Remembered with honour
    CITY OF LONDON CEMETERY AND CREMATORIUM, MANOR PARK
     
  3. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Hi Stanley,

    Welcome to the forum.

    Regards
    Peter.


    Can't really add much more to this apart from the following......

    2 September 1942

    2 GTS
    Master II DL425
    Witney, Oxfordshire.

    The aircraft was towing a glider (Hotspur HH518) on a low level cross country flight, not below 200 feet and to avoid built up areas. It flew into a church steeple which was 165 feet high, and crashed.

    'Though Without Anger' - Cummings.


    COUCH, GEORGE FREDERICK HOBERTON
    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    RODGER, VICTOR FREDERICK
    CWGC :: Casualty Details
     
  4. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Stanley,

    Hello and welcome to the forum.

    An interesting account and very unlucky.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  5. Stanley_C_Jenkins

    Stanley_C_Jenkins Junior Member

    Thank you for the prompt replies. We have most of the details, including eye witness accounts, but wondered if a coroner's inquest would have been held on flying training casualties. Also, nobody has ever produced a picture of the damaged spire - perhaps wartime restrictions discouraged people from taking photographs?
     
  6. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

  7. Capt.Sensible

    Capt.Sensible Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the prompt replies. We have most of the details, including eye witness accounts, but wondered if a coroner's inquest would have been held on flying training casualties. Also, nobody has ever produced a picture of the damaged spire - perhaps wartime restrictions discouraged people from taking photographs?

    Hello SCJ,

    Possibly a silly question but have you tried searching at the Oxfordshire Studies in the Westgate Library?

    CS
    Oxfordshire Studies - Oxfordshire County Council
     
  8. nicks

    nicks Very Senior Member

    Welcome SCJ,

    It may be worth you contacting the RAF Museum requesting a copy of the From 1180 for the aircraft involved. Be sure to quote the aircraft type and serial number also date and location of the accident.

    Contact Department of Research & Information Services - RAF Museum

    The Form 1180 will, if the museum holds a copy, give you the findings of the accident investigation.

    Regards,

    Nick
     
  9. Nick Fry

    Nick Fry New Member

    Don't know if anyone is still monitoring this thread, but I can add an extra little interesting titbit - following the crash and demolition of the top of the spire, my grandmother-in-laws father (a stonemason by trade) was responsible for recarving the top of the spire that was knocked off. Both my grandmother-in-law and her cousin (both still living in Witney) were pictured on top of the recarved stone and have been living off the tale of having 'sat on the top of Witney Church' ever since!!

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