William James Betts 1091436

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  1. tedfromscrubs

    tedfromscrubs Junior Member

    Hello everyone. An Italian friend has acquired the attached documents from a collector who had bought them in a street market. He tells me the diaries relate to Betts' time in Servigliano camp.

    Can anyone identify this soldier and give any more details?

    Many thanks


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  2. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    Attestation papers signed to join Royal Artillery 1940. Serving with 31 field regiment R.A. Reported missing 15.12. 1941., then reported as POW 1942 in camp No. 53 Italy. Later entry as in camp Stalag 4D. Torgau (Elbe). Released 1945.
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  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    To confirm above

    UK, British Prisoners of War, 1939-1945
    Name: W J Betts
    Rank: Gunner
    Army Number: 1091436
    Regiment: Royal Artillery
    POW Number: 228098
    Camp Type: Stalag
    Camp Number: IV-D
    Camp Location: Torgau, Saxony

  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
    Name: William James Betts
    Death Age: 84
    Birth Date: 28 Aug 1910 - from your documents
    Registration Date: Mar 1995
    Registration district: Eastbourne
    Inferred County: East Sussex
    Register Number: A61E
    District and Subdistrict: 4541A
    Entry Number: 204

    1939 England and Wales Register
    Name: William J Betts
    Gender: Male
    Marital status: Married
    Birth Date: 28 Aug 1910
    Residence Year: 1939
    Address: "Snaefell"
    Residence Place: Bletchley, Buckinghamshire, England
    Occupation: Shop Manager (Grocery)
    Schedule Number: 48
    Sub Schedule Number: 1
    Enumeration District: DVDC
    Registration district: 147/3
    Inferred Spouse: Constance W Betts
    Household Members:
    William J Betts
    Constance W Betts

    William James Betts
    Birth: 1910 - Fenny Stratford, Buckinghamshire, England
    Death: 1995 - Eastbourne, Sussex, England
    Marriage: Sep 1939 - Buckinghamshire, England
    Spouse: Constance Winifred Elson
    F: George Betts
    M: Lily Harmsworth

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  5. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Confirmation of Camp 53 in file WO392/21:

    BETTS WJ..jpg
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  6. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    1091436 BETTS Gnr W J 31 Fd Regt

    Middle East / Western Desert

    Casualty list No 735 dated 31 January 1942
    Missing 15.12.1941

    Casualty list No 764 dated 6 March 1942
    POW previously shown as missing

    Casualty list No 1800 dated 5 July 1945
    Previously reported POW in German hands now not POW

    Buckingham Advertiser and North Bucks Free Press, Saturday, February 7, 1942.
    A former manager of the Water Eaton Branch of the Bletchley Co-operative Society, Gnr William James Betts, RA, of 'Snaefell', Cottingham Grove, is reported missing since December 15th, 1941. He joined up in October 1940 a year after his marriage. He is the eldest son of Mr and Mrs G Betts, 159, Western Road.
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  7. tedfromscrubs

    tedfromscrubs Junior Member

    Fantastic info - many thanks. Only to be expected from all you experts! It just remains to be seen if he has any living descendants. Any hints gratefully received
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  8. tedfromscrubs

    tedfromscrubs Junior Member

    I've been given sight of the diary entries now, which show he was firstly in Camp 59 Servigliano 29/01/42 to 23/02/43, then transferred to Camp 53 (which he calls Urbisaglia but most refer to as Sfozacosta). Looks like he didn't escape at the Armistice and was shipped off to Germany

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