I tend to disagree that the 'landed' Have's dont serve - I was in the RAF as a younger man, and it always struck me that Army officers visiting our Mess seemed to be straight from the gentry, very plummy accents (unlike us more 'socialist' RAF, comprehensively educated to a man). Of course, the 'banker' Have's are a different kettle of fish, their current behaviour doesnt suggest we should fight to keep them! We've mentioned Pr.Philip, Churchill, Slim, how about Lord Louis, navy he may have been, but a real soldier nonetheless. And finally....even Socialist countries fight wars. Regards all. Pete.
The good point is a democratic free country enables a free forum for all to express their thoughts. but Rons photo sums it up for me
Yep Ive said it many times on other forums... The cwg headstones dont record the casulties politics. I do like the RAF socialist to a man comprehensive educated quote though...
Image speaks for itself (Sad but true considering the world today) (No offence meant to anyone its just a cartoon which ties in with the thread) Verrieres
oh i read the cartoon , that he fought for it it gives multiple views? Why We Fight is a series of seven propaganda films commissioned by the United States government during World War II to demonstrate to American soldiers the reason for U.S. involvement in the war. Later on they were also shown to the general U.S. public to persuade them to support American intervention. Most of the films were directed by Frank Capra, who was daunted yet also impressed and challenged by Leni Riefenstahl's propaganda film Triumph of the Will and who worked in direct response to it. The series faced a tough challenge: convincing an only recently isolationist nation of the need to become involved in the war and ally with the Soviets, among other things. In many of the films, Capra and other directors spliced in Axis powers propaganda footage – recontextualizing it so it promoted the cause of the Allies instead. Why We Fight was edited primarily by William Hornbeck and is among the best examples of stock-footage montage ever produced, although some parts were re-enacted if there was no relevant footage available. The animated portions of the films were produced by the Disney studios – with the animated maps following a convention of depicting Axis-occupied territory in black. The films were narrated by Academy Award winning actor Walter Huston. This narration, though factual for the most part, is replete with nationalist and racist rhetoric describing implacably warlike Germans and "blood-crazed Japs." Conversely, it lionizes the courage and sacrifice of the British, Soviets, and Chinese. Realistic sound effects and soaring symphonic music complement the dramatic scenes. At the end of each film, the quotation from Army Chief of Staff George Marshall that "...the victory of the democracies can only be complete with the utter defeat of the war machines of Germany and Japan." is shown on screen, followed by a ringing Liberty Bell over which is superimposed a large letter "V" zooming into the screen, accompanied by Onward Christian Soldiers on the soundtrack. Made from 1942 to 1945, the seven films range from 40 to 76 minutes in length, and all are available on DVD or online.
what's wrong with gay marriage? that cartoon implies it's wrong. I took it he was fighting for gay marriage....but then he may have trench fever...whatever the reasons as to why you fight and the mrs tells me its cos I still havent realised who wears the trousers in our trench...but Military world.net reports today that Canada is refusing infantry recruitment as the present Afghanistan war has got young canadians queuing up to be "trigger pullers" Generals words not mine.. So there is obviously something in the air..
I should add Canada is refusing because their infantry is full up. Not because of concerns on trigger pullers.
why do we fight because as soldiers - we are the physical element of political will we are the last element in diplomacy and because doing the right thing isnt always the easy way
what's wrong with gay marriage? that cartoon implies it's wrong. Australia is rather homophobic in places
I suppose that cartoon has got one thing right, the Diggers had a lack of respect for British discipline.
I suppose that cartoon has got one thing right, the Diggers had a lack of respect for British discipline. Well that explains it... I didnt realise they were Aussies...Homophbic Aussies ..trigger pulling Canadians...Its starting to sound like allour yesterdays... Ill say one thing on the gay aspect...We Brits have much more of a stiffer lip...and we should all rally round abd remember the Tommy battle cry....they dont like it up em....ooerrr Think Ill withdraw and make a British tactical runaway runaway..
Why We Fight is a series of seven propaganda films commissioned by the United States government during World War II to demonstrate to American soldiers the reason for U.S. involvement in the war. Later on they were also shown to the general U.S. public to persuade them to support American intervention. Here on Youtube.
"Why we fight?" I dunno, perhaps to avoid ths coming near our homes: or this coming into my daughters' syringes. http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8342adfcf53ef01116857199d970c-800wi
I still say that since probably the seventees or maybe even end of conscription in my country apart from a few patriotic and some economic...the reasons here are more base.
Has it occurred to you, that we here in the UK are a warrior Nation? NO? Well then explain why ther#re has only been one year since WW2 when a service man has not died in action? Going into battle is Not everyone's cup of tea... Like many of my Veteran mates it scared the Crap out of me. Sapper