Who is this man? Help me please.

Discussion in 'US Units' started by Milou, Feb 18, 2012.

  1. Milou

    Milou Junior Member

    This is good advice. Find some sites that specialise in 101st and 82nd airborne research. It's possible someone there may recognise him and an individual, rather than just am american paratrooper.

    Thank you. Will defenitely look for those!
     
  2. -tmm-

    -tmm- Senior Member

    Okay, I can see now it is a building!
     
  3. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic Patron

    One possibility is that the photo is a souvenir; I'm trying to account for why a Dutch person has a photo of an American paratrooper! Possibly he gave the photo to the people he was billeted with as a souvenir (in which case the photo might have been taken anywhere even in the USA) or the photo could have been taken by the people he was billeted with (in which case it could be close to where you bought the photo). I know civilians gave photos of themselves to soldiers who were billeted with them (because I have some examples given to my father when he was billeted in Poperinghe and Aarschot) and I can only assume that the reverse happened.

    Is there any other information on the back of the photo such as the type/make of photographic paper as this could indicate in which country the photo was taken? The number you mentioned in your first post looks like a photo reference number to me. The photo is obviously 'posed' so was presumably taken on a 'special' occasion.
     
  4. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic Patron

    Oh, the wonderful Ebay! Good luck with your enquiry to the seller!. If it was a recent purchase I suggest you also look at all his current items for sale and, possibly more importantly, his completed items to see if anything else gels with your photo. You need to be quick because the completed items list is removed quite quickly.
     
  5. -tmm-

    -tmm- Senior Member

    It it possible to get a high quality scan that will allow us to see more small details?


    It occurred to me that the M-43 jacket was supplied to infantry as well as paratroopers. The soldier is not wearing jump trousers (with big pockets) so this guy is likely not a paratrooper. (so please ignore any paratrooper related advice)
     
  6. Milou

    Milou Junior Member

    It it possible to get a high quality scan that will allow us to see more small details?


    It occurred to me that the M-43 jacket was supplied to infantry as well as paratroopers. The soldier is not wearing jump trousers (with big pockets) so this guy is likely not a paratrooper. (so please ignore any paratrooper related advice)

    Haha, so we're back to square one.

    Things we are pretty certain about:
    - He was in US army
    - He's wearing M-43 jacket
    - That means he was alive, and the picture was taken at the time of Operation Market Garden, untill VE Day.
    - Judging on the looks of the surroundings, the picture is probably taken in (Northern) Europe, in either fall 1944 or spring 1945
     
  7. Milou

    Milou Junior Member

    One possibility is that the photo is a souvenir; I'm trying to account for why a Dutch person has a photo of an American paratrooper! Possibly he gave the photo to the people he was billeted with as a souvenir (in which case the photo might have been taken anywhere even in the USA) or the photo could have been taken by the people he was billeted with (in which case it could be close to where you bought the photo). I know civilians gave photos of themselves to soldiers who were billeted with them (because I have some examples given to my father when he was billeted in Poperinghe and Aarschot) and I can only assume that the reverse happened.

    Is there any other information on the back of the photo such as the type/make of photographic paper as this could indicate in which country the photo was taken? The number you mentioned in your first post looks like a photo reference number to me. The photo is obviously 'posed' so was presumably taken on a 'special' occasion.

    Other than the pencil written photonumber, there is something on it. It is very small in light grey inkt. It's on the edge of the picture, so it might be that part of the word fell off. It says either: dujac or (if you turn it upside down) ovira/avira.

    I did check on Dujac. There is a wine domain in France, but that wasn't started untill the 60s, so that seems to be a dead end :(
     
  8. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic Patron

    Need a 'Eureka!' moment on this one. There must be something we have missed. Have you made any progress with the Ebay vendor? All will be OK, the impossible simply takes longer.
     
  9. Could I just mention that the UK could be rulled out as a location for the photo. I can't say for the USA. My reason is that when in Poland, France and Germany over the past few years, I had noticed all drain down pipes were as wide as is in the photo. the UK are narrower. John.
     
  10. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    What you call a tree with leaves looks like a climbing rose growing over a
    construction made of poles. All those sticks coming out of the ground
    on the background make me think of a vineyard. So, maybe it is in France:)

    Just a guess ofcourse..!!!!!


    Ron
     
  11. Milou

    Milou Junior Member

    What you call a tree with leaves looks like a climbing rose growing over a
    construction made of poles. All those sticks coming out of the ground
    on the background make me think of a vineyard. So, maybe it is in France:)

    Just a guess ofcourse..!!!!!


    Ron

    Hi, i know right? I had thought about a vineyard.. Unfortunately it might say dujac on the back. Only, domaine dujac was not built until 67, i read.

    In the background there seems to be a hill, that would probably rule out Holland too. Unless it would be the very south. My guess would be belgium or france.

    Also, i read the m43 jacket wasnt widely distributed untill 45. Except for paratroopers. That would make the timing of this photo most likely spring 45. Right?

    Thank you everyone. Am loving this!

    Nothing from the vendor yet.
     
  12. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    Can you scan the back of the picture? If it is a vineyard and it says indeed "Dujac" then it must be that?


    Ron
     
  13. Milou

    Milou Junior Member

    Can you scan the back of the picture? If it is a vineyard and it says indeed "Dujac" then it must be that?


    Ron

    I will try to, as soon as possible. But that might take a couple of days, since I'm not home.

    It's quite unclear what it says, but who knows, you might be right.
     
  14. eucmh

    eucmh Junior Member

    not willing to suck but this photo was shot between September 1944 and end of autumn (leafts) this soldier is not an airborne trooper cause he's wearing the M-1943 field combat uniform and Shoe composition sole M-1943 ... back to square 1 ...
     

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  15. Pete Keane

    Pete Keane Senior Member

    Ovira-speed was a type of silver chlorobromide photographic paper.
     

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