Who is responsible for war cemeteries in the United States?

Discussion in 'War Grave Photographs' started by spidge, Sep 10, 2010.

  1. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    I know the Battle Monuments Commission is responsible for those US military Buried/Memorialised outside of the US however I wish to contact the department responsible for ST. LOUIS (JEFFERSON BARRACKS) NATIONAL CEMETERY in Missouri.

    I want to see if there is any hope of getting this lads headstone fixed.

    The name looks as if it has been corrected but a very poor attempt. They have also omitted to add the service (RAAF).

    Except for the rank of Flying Officer, it would seem that he was in the USAAF.

    I know the procedure for the CWGC to report headstone errors but not for the US.

    Do they have a similar contact system?

    These are the three graves of Aussies

    Cheers

    Geoff

    St Louis (Jefferson Barracks) 266551 Keogh_GM.jpg

    St Louis (Jefferson Barracks) 414624 Mackay_WA.jpg

    St Louis (Jefferson Barracks) Nat Cem 6109 Clapinson_HW.jpg
     
  2. Oldman

    Oldman Very Senior Member

    Goff
    Have you tried contacting the actual cemetery itself they normally would be able to help.
    Failing that then contact the Veteran Affairs people and see if the can give guidance, maybe a PM to one of our American members may help I think Ranger6 is still serving in the Army so may have a usefull contact or two.
     
  3. Oldman

    Oldman Very Senior Member

    Geoff
    Disregard my above post and try the following website, WWW.CEM.VA.GOV then go to the Headstone/Memorial page and you will find there is a replacement Headstone/memorial line check that out
     
  4. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Hi Oldman,

    I think the answer is no depending on the meaning of this paragraph and particularly this sentence in red.

    Replacement Headstones and Markers Headstones and markers previously furnished by the Government may be replaced at Government expense if badly deteriorated, illegible, stolen or vandalized. We may also replace the new (or modern) headstone or marker if the inscription is incorrect, if it was damaged during shipping, or if the material or workmanship does not meet contract specifications. Please note that historic headstones (those greater than 50 years of age) will not be replaced to correct inscription inaccuracies based on modern research; requests for replacement of historic headstones will only be honored when inscriptions are worn to the point that they can no longer be read or if the headstone is otherwise damaged beyond repair.

    "Based on modern research" is the clincher here I think. This information was known (his surname) and his service (RAAF).

    Based on this, there may be a chance as his two fellow RAAF have their service inscribed on their headstones.

    All we need now is an email address where it will go to someone who can make a decision.

    Any clues?

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  5. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    Hi Geoff,

    I know all about this, would you believe that the United States of Amercia do not know where there Veterans are buried before 1992... I have a letter stating this they do not hold records for any of them which I find very surprising but the place to start is this address

    Department of Veterans Affairs
    National Cemetery Administration
    810 Vermont Ave,
    N,W, Washington
    DC 20420
    USA

    Good luck

    Cheers
    Tom
     
  6. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Hi Geoff,

    I know all about this, would you believe that the United States of Amercia do not know where there Veterans are buried before 1992... I have a letter stating this they do not hold records for any of them which I find very surprising but the place to start is this address

    Department of Veterans Affairs
    National Cemetery Administration
    810 Vermont Ave,
    N,W, Washington
    DC 20420
    USA

    Good luck

    Cheers
    Tom

    Thanks Tom,

    Will give it a try.

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  7. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    Geoff,
    I called the Cemetery. I will send you a PM with an email address. Keep us posted if you get stuck.

    Cheers from the land of the frozen tundra, caribou and all kinds of igloos.
     
  8. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Geoff,
    I called the Cemetery. I will send you a PM with an email address. Keep us posted if you get stuck.

    Cheers from the land of the frozen tundra, caribou and all kinds of igloos.

    Thanks Randy,

    We are just leaving all that wintry stuff behind us. Go Spring and roll on summer!

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  9. Oldman

    Oldman Very Senior Member

    Geoff
    Hope it works out for you, thought the Veteran Affairs website would have helped, typical of the beaurecrats though to have a get out of jail card.
     
  10. A-58

    A-58 Not so senior Member

    Try these folks too. The cemetery at Jefferson Barracks is administered by the Department of Veteran's Affairs. There are several agencies that administer the various cemeteries here in the US.

    Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery
    2900 Sheridan Road
    St. Louis, MO 63125
    Phone: (314) 845-8320
    FAX: (314) 845-8355

    I spent the Labor Day Holiday in St. Louis visiting an Army buddy and his family. Too bad this wasn't posted sooner, I would have went to the admin office to get some first hand information for you.

    Please keep us posted on the matter, and let me know if there is anything I can do to help out.
     
  11. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Try these folks too. The cemetery at Jefferson Barracks is administered by the Department of Veteran's Affairs. There are several agencies that administer the various cemeteries here in the US.

    Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery
    2900 Sheridan Road
    St. Louis, MO 63125
    Phone: (314) 845-8320
    FAX: (314) 845-8355

    I spent the Labor Day Holiday in St. Louis visiting an Army buddy and his family. Too bad this wasn't posted sooner, I would have went to the admin office to get some first hand information for you.

    Please keep us posted on the matter, and let me know if there is anything I can do to help out.

    Thanks for the extra lead.

    I will send my request to VA first with corroborating photos and see what kind of reaction I get.

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  12. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Thanks for your interest and information evereyone.

    I have sent the email to the chap at VA supplied by Randy to see what sort of reception I receive.

    Will advise any reply.

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  13. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    I received a reply very quickly from the chap at St Louis (Jefferson Barracks) Cemetery.

    He advises that the photo I was led to believe was taken "not very long ago" was in fact more than 6 years old as he had the headstone replaced in 2004 when he noticed the poor attempt to etch F/O Keogh's name.

    He also sent me a photo of the replacement headstone.

    I of course replied very apologetically and thanked him for his efforts, his quick reply and the new photo.

    So if you have a problem there in the future, Randy (another one) will surely get it sorted.

    From this: St Louis (Jefferson Barracks) 266551 Keogh_GM 2.jpg

    Thanks for all your help.

    United States is now complete.

    Cheers

    Geoff
     

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  14. A-58

    A-58 Not so senior Member

    It's good to know that all was made well, and that your inquirey was properly and quickly tended to.
     
  15. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    Geoff,

    Bravo! Glad you got it sorted out.

    Randy
     
  16. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    It's good to know that all was made well, and that your inquirey was properly and quickly tended to.

    Great job.

    Randy said that he organised the new headstone in 2004. Reading between the lines, I think he was most disappointed with the first effort hence the new replacement back then.

    (If I had moved on this a month ago, you would have seen the new stone)
     
  17. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Geoff,

    Bravo! Glad you got it sorted out.

    Randy

    Thanks Randy,

    All's well that ends well!

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  18. Oldman

    Oldman Very Senior Member

    Geoff
    Really pleased for you what a great result for you and thanks to our forum members on the American Continent for there great assistance.
     
  19. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    Oldman,

    Being a lot of a Canadian, could we say North American Continent? No slight to A-58... but we do occupy more space on this continent.
     

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