Who are these chaps in this photo with 1st Div sign on arm ?

Discussion in 'The Brigade of Guards' started by Owen, Apr 13, 2018.

  1. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Saw this photo on a table in Hardwick Hall's Drawing room yesterday.
    The room-guide was busy with other visitors so couldn't ask her who was in the photo.
    Anyone know ?
    I haven't had time to look into it yet , thought it'd be quicker to ask on here.

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  2. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member


    That looks like Maj Gen Roland Penney GOC 1 Inf Div.


  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I've emailed the NT office at the Hall.
  4. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Owen, Its a shame that you could not get a sharper quality photo! I'm thinking the Private may be Private R. Burton, V.C., 1st Bn
    Duke of Wellington's Regiment. There is a decent quality illustration of him in the History, buts its not a profile.

    This may be a silly question, but whats at Hardwick Hall?
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Couldn't get any closer, the table it was on was in a roped off bit of the room, photo taking with quite a bit of zoom.
    Don't think it's Burton, he was a Private.
    The chap on the right has one pip .
    As for Hardwick Hall in WW2, see this thread.
    Hardwick Hall
    Although that wasn't the reason we went.
  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Had a reply from the Collections & Engagement Officer at Hardwick Hall.
    She says..
    Thank you for your email enquiry about the photograph on display in the Drawing Room. This is Major Lord Andrew Cavendish (later the 11th Duke of Devonshire) of the Coldstream Guards, being awarded the Military Cross by General Poole in 1944 for gallantry in the field. He had been serving in Italy for some time.

  7. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    Screen Shot 2018-04-16 at 22.59.12.png

    Derbyshire Times 15th June 1945

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    Derby Telegraph 6th October 1944
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  8. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

  9. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Thanks Guy & D.
    So what I took to be the white triangle of 1st Div was in fact 6 SA Armd Div.
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  10. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    His brother was killed in action serving with the Coldstream Guards, William married Kathleen Kennedy (J.F.K's sister) in 1944.

    90720 Major William Andrew Robert Cavendish Marquis of Hartington 5th Coldstream Guards Killed in action 9th September 1944


    William Cavendish, Marquess of Hartington
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  11. Owen

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