Which tank is this?

Discussion in 'North Africa & the Med' started by Emanuel1940, Aug 30, 2014.

  1. Emanuel1940

    Emanuel1940 Member

    Hi everyone,

    is this a Grant Tank?

    Many thanks.
     

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  2. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

  3. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    Crusader or Valentine in the back?

    All the best

    Andreas
     
  4. rockape252

    rockape252 Senior Member

    Hi Andreas,

    I will go out on a limb and say ... "Valentine" and because of the pennant/s on the wireless antenna a command tank.


    Regards, Mick D.
     
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Tank in background is a Crusader.
     
  6. JackGe

    JackGe Junior Member

    Yest to the Grant in the foreground.

    In the back, I would lean towards the Crusader which has five road wheels. The Valentine has a very noticeable space between it's first set of three road wheels and it's second set of three road wheels.





    regards,
    Jack
     
  7. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    The Grant has a .30 Browning M1919A4 MG in an AA mount on the turret. All Mk I Grants with the British turret had provision for the AA MG, but you seldom see it mounted in pictures.
     
  8. rockape252

    rockape252 Senior Member

    Hi,

    I understand about the difference in the Tanks wheel layout now.

    Worth a shot though :)

    Command Tank pennants ?


    Regards, Mick D.
     
  9. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Crusader certainly in background

    Cheers
     
  10. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    Thanks all for the ID.

    Not really needed anymore?

    Handed over to the infantry/trucks?

    B*tch to operate and somewhat pointless?

    I have a number of pictures of Stuarts from Jan 42, where they all sport the AA Browning.

    Cheers

    Andreas
     
  11. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    JackGe




    Small point but the Crusader had 10 road wheels - Churchill 44 - forgotten what Valentine had but more than 20 - had to grease them every day

    Cheers
     
  12. The Cooler King

    The Cooler King Elite Member

    A few images from Bovington..............
     

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  13. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY



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  14. riter

    riter Well-Known Member

    Concur that tank in the background is the Crusader. Tank in foreground is Humphrey Bogart's Lulubelle san its commander 30 mg turret.
     
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  15. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    'Lulubelle' was a Lee, but we can tell by the more bulbous turret that the tank in the photo here is a Grant. As you say, it didn't have the extra mg turret.
     
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  16. riter

    riter Well-Known Member

    I was trying to be funny. Anyway, of the two vehicles, I like the bigger turret of the Grant and the relocation of the radio into the turret. Now it's only a grave for six brothers instead of seven (Russian nickname for the tank).
     
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