Which POW Camp

Thank you

 

Harvey Kenneth Swartz, born Winnipeg, Manitoba 25 March 1905. Killed in road accident Campbell RIver, BC 24 September 1951

Vancouver Sun 27 September 1951



Victoria Times Colonist 7 November 1951

 

Wow Alieneyes, This very much looks like him. But 'my' Harvey Swartz served in the 1st bat. Canadian Scottish Regiment. Is this the same Regiment? Don't know anything about the Canadian military, sorry.
Regarding his brothers two are from Vancouver and one is W.O.2 Arthur, England. What does that mean?
How do you search in order to find this? I mean he was registered as being from Vancouver, so I would never looked at someone from Winnipeg.

 

Lisan,

Yes, the 1st Battalion Canadian Scottish Regiment was the same regiment as the 2nd Battalion. The regiment's Wiki alas only refers to the 1st Battalion.

Digging about, yes with Wiki, the 1st battalion was part of the 3rd Canadian Division on D-Day, in the 7th Canadian Infantry Brigade. See: 3rd Canadian Division - Wikipedia

There were eight Canadian divisions in WW2: List of Canadian divisions in World War II - Wikipedia Two numbers are duplicates, I know not why at a glance.

The 2nd Canadian Scottish was assigned in March 1942 to the 6th Canadian Division, but disappears by August 1943 (deployed to the Pacific region). It also refers to losing battalions, though not where went! From: 6th Canadian Infantry Division - Wikipedia and 6th Canadian Infantry Division - Wikipedia

No mention of the 6th.

I expect as D-day loomed and the decline of a threat to Canad itself battalions or even smaller units were switched to the UK before D-Day, even more likely after the losses in Normandy and later in Holland. It is possible soldiers always kept the regimental affiliation, even if serving with another battalion in the regiment. Regimental and battalion pride.

You will have to look for a regimental history book, probably in a Canadian library. Or rely on our Canadian member's help.

 

Hi,

Probably best not to “believe” in minutia of the newspaper report. Errors can creep in. If the bulk of the “facts” fit your man then it’s likely him. Well done to alieneyes

Steve

 

I'd say Vancouver was his home of record on enlistment and Winnipeg was where he was born. Both his parents were from Manitoba.

These articles are from 1951. I would imagine the press is advising the reader of Swartz' extended family. Arthur seems to have stayed in the RCAF and is now in the UK. I don't know.

I search by looking up death registrations and then finding a newspaper article on how one died. This is Swartz's death registration:



Here is a whole bunch of info on your people, some with pictures.

Vancouver Sun 21 November 1944

 

Alieneyes, Amazing what you found. So grateful for the newspaper clippings

 

I might as well keep going with what I found.

Postwar, Captain Brownridge, his wife and son migrated to the US. That lasted three years and the family returned to Canada (Kingston, Ontario) in 1950 where he took employment with Canadian Industries Ltd.



The family ended up moving back to the US where your subject passed in Charlotte, NC in 2003.

Charlotte Observer 23 November 2003

 

Do you have a newspaper clipping of the men missing that I can blow up and read?

 

PM me your email address and I'll send it

 

Victoria Times Colonist 23 October 1944

 

how do I sent PM

 

Click on my user name (on the left) and then click on "start a conversation"

 

Done

 

Should have it now.

 

got it, thanks

 

The official history of the Canadian Scottish Regiment is Reginald H. Roy's "Ready For The Fray". The 2nd edition covering 1920-2002 is available on the Internet Archive at Ready for the fray : (Deas gu cath) ; the history of the Canadian Scottish Regiment (Princess Mary's), 1920-2002 : Roy, Reginald H : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive. You will need a free Internet Archive account in order to "borrow" it. Chapter 10 at page 333 is "The Leopold Canal, the Scheldt and Nijmegen", which includes details of the battle at the Leopold Canal as well the capture, escape and evasion of A/Capt Schjelderup and party. The search function works well to find terms like Schjelderup, Berry, Gri, Swartz, etc.

 

Hi Thor,
Thanks I will certainly look it up.

 

Note Appendix 4 in Roy lists all PW, it includes all the 1 CSRs on your list (excluding Schjeldrup and Gri) and the 6th Scottish men, so they were also 1 CSR.

Brownridge was the Forward Observation Officer from 23 Cdn Field Regt, captured along with Gnr J Tendeck according to their history transcribed here:
23rd Field Regiment ( SP ) RCA

 

Hi Klambie,
I also started reading the book. Why are Gri and Schjelderup not mentioned as PoWs?
Thanks for the history of Brownridge