What weapon would this be?

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by veronicad, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. veronicad

    veronicad Well-Known Member

    Seen in a pay book. Which looks to be a competition. 1937-1938-1939. Rifle = 1st. .L.A. = 1st. What does the L.A. mean?
    1940/41 . reads, Rifle , S.S. L.A. S.S .? What does S.S. mean?
    Thank you. Veronica.
     
  2. idler

    idler GeneralList

    LA is probably Light Automatic, usually used in reference to the Lewis Gun.
     
  3. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    Does S.S. appear twice?

    If once, I'd say Rifle: Standard Service and, as Idler says, Light Automatic.

    [Not authoritative--just speculation]
     
  4. idler

    idler GeneralList

    The 'results' are probably skill at arms proficiency grades from annual tests.

    The SS isn't ringing any bells at present but I'm preparing to kick myself when the right answer appears...
     
  5. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Having overthought it, it could be a split grade for drills/handling and shooting - skilled/skilled?
     
  6. veronicad

    veronicad Well-Known Member

    The 1940/41 is written thus. Rifle . S.S. L.A. S.S.
    Thanks , Veronica.
     
  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Well-Known Member

    S S - Single Shot ??

    TD
     
  8. veronicad

    veronicad Well-Known Member

    Hi, all and thank you. Much speculation! On the same page of payment book I see capital letters EDCN..
    22-2-39,= 2nd.
    18-9-39 = 3rd. Which does not make for it being an annual event. What does EDCN mean? Is it a weapon?
    Veronica.
     
  9. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Well-Known Member

    Might need to see a scan of the wole page/document, as you will know it often helps to put these abbreviations into context by seeing the whole

    Interesting though

    TD
     
  10. redtop

    redtop Well-Known Member

    Sharp shooter?
     
  11. redtop

    redtop Well-Known Member

    Sharp shooter?
     
  12. veronicad

    veronicad Well-Known Member

    I will try to scan the page. Also, if it was a competition, then the * results* may have been recorded in the regiment's periodical magazine.
    I am in touch with someone who may be able to look that up for me. Thank you all. Veronica.
     
  13. redtop

    redtop Well-Known Member

    I do not think competition results would be in pay book,but range qualifications could as they result in extra pay.
    Ist class Rifle
    Ist Class Light automatic (Bren)
    Sharp Shooter .
    What Regiment or Corp did he serve in? Infantry men can get enhanced pay for shooting proficiency.
    He could have qualified on range at any time during year hence the various dates.
    If his standard drops from Ist to 2nd class his pay would drop.
     
  14. idler

    idler GeneralList

    EDCN could be an abbreviation of 'Education' as in 'Certificate of Education' which was awarded in three classes. The snag is that you'd expect the 2nd class certificate to be taken after the 3rd.
     

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