What type of German policemen are these guys?

Discussion in 'The Holocaust' started by KriegsmarineFreak, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. KriegsmarineFreak

    KriegsmarineFreak Senior Member

    In this photo laughing German policemen torment a Jew in Rzeszow, Poland. I recognize the uniform of the man on the far left but not of the other policemen. They look as if they're a foreign police squad hired by the Nazis or may even be foreign soldiers enlisted into Germany's army. Any ideal of what type of police uniform these guys are wearing?
     

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  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Miedzyrzec Podlaski Ghetto

    Men in similar uniforms on linked site.
    Says this.
    The first "action" (German: Aktion) in the Miedzyrzec Ghetto was organized between 25 and 26 August 1942. This brutal "action" was carried out by policemen from the "famous" 101st Reserve Police Battalion from Hamburg and Ukrainian guards from Trawniki.

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  3. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Still whining about the Oriental Horde pillaging and raping? These guys deserved much more!
     
  4. chipmunk wallah

    chipmunk wallah Senior Member

    Yeah,like a nine mili in the back of the neck!Good god,are you actually sticking up for those Ukrainiane savages?
     
  5. Dresden

    Dresden Junior Member

    The lack of sleeve unit emblems, no shoulderboards, and no collar tabs would lead me to guess they are Ukranian volunteers. Getting Ukranians to kill Jews was no problem as
    most of the NKVD squads that murdered 30,000 Ukranians were Jews.
     
  6. Stig O'Tracy

    Stig O'Tracy Senior Member

    The lack of sleeve unit emblems, no shoulderboards, and no collar tabs would lead me to guess they are Ukranian volunteers. Getting Ukranians to kill Jews was no problem as
    most of the NKVD squads that murdered 30,000 Ukranians were Jews.


    I'm afraid that antisemitism existed in eastern Europe long before the rise of the Soviet state and it's various police and secret organs. The Jews of Russia were regularly preyed upon by the non Jewish population even though their immigration into Russia was encouraged by the Czar despite their existence there being tightly regulated. Statements like the one above are the typical grist of NeoNazis and todays antisemites, as if they can somehow justify not only murder but genocide. This is in fact one of the themes of Irvings hate mongering.
     
  7. Dresden

    Dresden Junior Member

    Actually my take on it comes from knowing Ukranians, and a little research as well, perhaps you should not look at everything you don't agree with and refer to those opinions as being neo nazi, screw it, I'll never post here again.
     
  8. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

  9. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    I'll never post here again.

    Tut Tut
     
  10. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    Up to you Dresden but you will find that it was not anyone Jewish who ordered anyone to be killed and the NKVD was not a Jewish organ but one which Stalin used as his attack dog.
    Blaming the Jews or "understanding" why people would want to kill them is something of a distortion and a rationalisation of what actually took place.
    History is best understood by even handed objectivity rather than the approach you have adopted.
    This site is regulated with that objectivity in mind , this has been my experience.
     
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  11. laufer

    laufer Senior Member

    Well, it is true that identification of Jews with communism was a well established stereotype. Particularly among people from countries occupied by Soviet Union. Germans try to strengthen and use those stereotypes and prejudices during the war. Often successfully. But in case of Ukrainian volunteers there was another factor. Some most radical Ukrainian nationalist who want to build independent state (which is understandable goal) believed that free Ukraine could exist as a country of only one nation. Until the German policy towards Ukrainians disappointed them, they had encouraging many young people to cooperate with Nazis.
    And I agree with Stig. Jewish members of party or police organs were communists in the first place. By the way, in eastern Poland pro-Russian rather then pro-Soviet sentiments among the Jewish community was much weaker after several month of communist rules in 1939-1941 than at the beginning of war.
     

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