what tank ?

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by JamesDrury, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Burma 1942: Royal Armoured Corps: 146 Regiment Royal Armoured Corps (RAC) | The National Archives
    Reference: WO 172/700
    Description:
    Burma 1942: Royal Armoured Corps: 146 Regiment Royal Armoured Corps (RAC)
    Date: 1942 June - Dec.
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Legal status: Public Record(s)

    Burma 1943: Royal Armoured Corps: 146 Army Tank Regiment | The National Archives
    Reference: WO 172/2261
    Description:
    Burma 1943: Royal Armoured Corps: 146 Army Tank Regiment
    Date: 1943 Jan.- Mar.
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Legal status: Public Record(s)

    146 Regiment Royal Armoured Corps | The National Archives
    Reference: WO 172/4598
    Description:
    146 Regiment Royal Armoured Corps
    Date: 1944 Oct.
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Legal status: Public Record(s)

    There seems to be some date gaps in the WD's - so perhaps some more investigating required, somewhere in these it might also provide some ansers to questions

    TD

    File:The British Army in Burma 1945 SE3747.jpg - Wikimedia Commons
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    A Grant tank crew of 146th Regiment, Royal Armoured Corps repair one of the tracks of their vehicle on the outskirts of Taungup, 4 April 1945.


    Duke of Wellington's Regiment - Wikipedia
    9th Battalion
    The 9th Battalion was also converted to armour, becoming 146th Regiment RAC (DWR).[76]
     
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  2. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    If the water colourist has reproduced the gun correctly it looks to be a Medium IIA CS fitted with a 3.7 in howitzer for close support - the standard 2 pounder was thinner and longer
     
  3. JamesDrury

    JamesDrury Member

    ah yes, found that one and a couple of others on here, really interesting :)
     
  4. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    Is that an improvised wading kit? Haven't seen them on grants before. Great picture.
     
  5. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

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  6. JamesDrury

    JamesDrury Member

    Hi all,

    Just wanted to pick expert brains once more - can anyone tell me what vehicle this is.

    Many thanks

    James
     

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  7. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    Looks like a Humber Mk IV
     
  8. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    Looking closer its a Canadian Fox II which was a GM built copy of the Humber Mk IV
     
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  9. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian researcher

    With machineguns and no cannon, if I remember correctly.
     
  10. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    Browning Mgs not Besa and a 0.5 Browning instead of the 37mm. Whilst the Fox and the Humber had very similar hull and turret nothing completely matched.
     
  11. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    One little snippet, when it was decided that all Allied vehicles would be marked with a big white star some took umbrage at the replacement of the red white red bi colour that had been used on Commonwealth and Imperial vehicles since 1918. None more so than some Canadians (who presumably had thoughts of the 1812 invasion). The result was that on some Canadian vehicles the star is just a wee bit off the vertical so as to say "Allied Yes, American NO! You can just see it on this one.
     
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  12. JamesDrury

    JamesDrury Member

    Lots of interesting info all - thank you. The vehicle is with the 146th RAC in 1945/6
     
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  13. JamesDrury

    JamesDrury Member

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  14. Juha

    Juha Junior Member

    To me it looks like Humber Armoured Car III, even if it was not a tank.
     
  15. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    Nope the Humber Mk III had a different shaped turret to the one in the first photo which has the more rectangular turet of the Humber IV and the Fox II. Both photos have the barrel shielding found on the 0.5 Browning installation on the Fox
     
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  16. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian researcher

    Hmm, that looks like an hitherto-unrecorded vehicle name to me! :)

    Hang on a moment - in the first picture of an armoured car posted here, is that an RAF roundel on the side of the vehicle!?
     
  17. JamesDrury

    JamesDrury Member

    I'm no expert but looks like sorting round. is that ususal ?
     
  18. Juha

    Juha Junior Member

    Ok, I just looked at the last picture, and made the conclusion between Humber AC Mk II and III based only on the number of men because so little on turret is shown.
     
  19. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian researcher

    What do you mean by "sorting"?

    For a vehicle in the RAC I would have expected a circle in a single colour as a squadron identification emblem. (IIRC) But that looks to be at least two.
     
  20. JamesDrury

    JamesDrury Member

    sorry - sorting = something, apologies. the joys of autocorrect.
     

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