What have you learned about WW2 recently?

Discussion in 'General' started by dbf, Oct 22, 2010.

  1. A-58

    A-58 Not so senior Member

    I recently learned that on July 14,1945 Italy declared war on Japan. I read it in the "on this day in history" section of the Baton Rouge newspaper. And yes, I still have it delivered to my house. Anyway what was the point of that? To gain admission to the United Nations?
     
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  2. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    A-58,

    Diplomacy and politics aside there were Italian nationals fighting with the Japanese. My recollection is that there were detachments guarding their Shanghai enclave and the embassy in Peking. Some chose to be POWs. This was after the Italian armistice in 1943.
     
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  3. Warlord

    Warlord Veteran wannabe

    There is a Mark Felton video on YT on this precise subject, and I just saw it some weeks ago:

     
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  4. clark136

    clark136 Junior Member

    Having just got back from a battlefield tour of Normandy with my Squadron, I have learned just how big and exposed the beaches were (are). Pictures, books and movies are all great, but actually being on the beaches, in the battery's, seeing the bullet holes in houses, standing in the cemeteries... THATS when you really learn about the War.
     
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  5. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA Patron

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  7. Grasmere

    Grasmere Well-Known Member

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  8. Ewen Scott

    Ewen Scott Well-Known Member

    If you want a starting point for understanding the Allied state of mind in early Sept 1944 then there is no better place that Eisenhower's report to the Combined Chiefs of Staff dated 9 Sept 1944 that was considered by them at the Octagon Conference in Quebec between 12 & 16 Sept. There is an intelligence report at p81 dated 8 Sept.

    Unfortunately German resistance stiffened significantly (more than the "somewhat" he acknowledged) during the course of the following week, something that largely evaded the notice of the intelligence community, prior to the launch of Market Garden on 17th.

    Good news is that it is one of the first documents in the .pdf

    https://www.jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/History/WWII/Octagon3.pdf

    Lot of other good stuff in there as well about the progress of the war.
     
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  9. Red Jim

    Red Jim Well-Known Member

    Yesterday I learned about the appalling atrocities committed by the Goums ( irregular Moroccan troops attached to the French Expeditionary Corps- FEC) , against Italian civilians, mainly women and children, in 1944. Barbarity almost beyond words. In the words of fellow Forum member vitellino hard to believe they were our Allies.
     
  10. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    ...and for some real 'feel' of what it would have been like for anyone 'storming up the beach', just go down to the waterline during a rising tide and look up the beach, and, if inclined, just check out the locations of gun emplacements etc. I've done just that at 7.30am on Gold Beach - the time of the initial wave: totally thought provoking.
     
  11. riter

    riter Well-Known Member

    Just got the American The Infantry Journal's Scouting and Patrolling manual. I wanted to learn what a GI learned if he had attended scout school in the US. My friend's uncle was a scout in the 81st Infantry Div (Wildcats) and it was one of the questions he never answered. Now I know. It covers movement day/night, use of the land to avoid detection, selection of trees, estimating enemy strength (Pinkerton's men could have used this in the American Civil War and they always overestimated Confederate strength to Army of the Potomac commander George McCellan), use of compass, night navigation, silent movement and some silent killng, etc.
     
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  12. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA Patron

    I thought all the US prewar battleships received 5"/38 twin mounts when they were refitted but here is the Idaho in 1945 with refitted 5" singles.

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  13. riter

    riter Well-Known Member

    I'll have to look at Breyer but the other two New Mexico class battleships did not recceive dual 5"/38 guns.

    Last French battleship had a stainless steel wine tank in her bow.
     
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  14. Ewen Scott

    Ewen Scott Well-Known Member

  15. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA Patron

  16. chipm

    chipm Well-Known Member

    Malta
    The SS Ohio

    I know about the Malta struggles of course.
    But i did not know, specifically, about the supply convoy with The SS Ohio.
    I CAN imagine the relief those people felt when that ship and a few others arrived with Help and Hope.


    SS Ohio (1940) - Wikipedia
     
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  17. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I just learnt that the animator Bob Godfrey was a Bootneck . His landing craft was hit on D-Day off GOLD Beach. He was one of three survivors.

    Bob Godfrey - Wikipedia


    47 Royal Marine Commando
     
  18. Red Jim

    Red Jim Well-Known Member

    Brilliant. I used to love " Rhubarb" as a kid. The theme tune is in my head now!
     
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  19. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

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  20. paulcheall

    paulcheall Son of a Green Howard

    apparently these code names were allocated by the authorities. Interestingly M stands for Market Garden and also Mulberry Harbour, nothing to do with the shape of them. Later in the alphabet O stands for Overlord. N anybody?
     
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