What does this badge make you think of? ( Non-Nazi Swastika usage).

Discussion in 'General' started by Owen, May 25, 2006.

  1. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Nice little article/page: Kipling & the Swastika.

    And this piece of coke Merchandising from the dim & distant:
    Allegedly a 1925 watch fob.
  2. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    There are the usual gang of rabble-rousers in this state who assume that the flag in my signature has racial overtones because of the general appearance it has to that of the Confederate Naval Ensign (as opposed to the Battle Flag, which was square).

    You Limeys will recognize the flag of the State of Alabama as something else.

    Edit in 2011....the Flag in my sig has since changed. The one that was there was the Flag of the State of Alabama. In is the Cross of St George.
  3. BulgarianSoldier

    BulgarianSoldier Senior Member

    Hahaha drink coca-cola in BOTTLES like this is some kind of extra :D :D
  4. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    men, unfortunately, after this all this nazi & such stuff any sign that is similiar to nazi swastika will be recognized like sumbol of nazism ad related ideology, and this symbol contunued to be used by all post-war neo-nazies and similiar. god damned, hitler! He chosed bad luck interpretation of swastika and put a bad menaning on all kinds of swastika - on this very interesting symbol .. damn!
  5. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    first thought.woman with large bust.lee.
  6. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member

    Hi I saw this coin for sale and saved a photograph of it, Dose any one know any thing about it???
  7. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Reminiscent of the John Deere Good luck token mentioned here:
    Zara withdraws swastika handbags
    Swastika, clover and star have all been good luck symbols in their time, with a dash of the Illuminati eye just to give it all a further hint of mysticism?


  8. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member

    I suppose it could be a US coin with the link to Ierland, Jewish and the Germans where not the eneimies untill the early 40s

    Some one will know for sure:rolleyes:
  9. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Germany has nothing to do with the trad symbolism mate.
    The swastika was a very common good luck symbol for centuries, and enjoyed something of a flowering in 20s-30s America.
    The new deal was still to come in '33 so it'd be perhaps unsurprising to see such tokens being given out in 32, maybe even a political token for Roosevelt's Election campaign?
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Similar ones mentioned here.

    Perspectives in Numismatics - Collecting U.S. Tokens

    the GOOD LUCK token, often with a swastika, horseshoe, and other "lucky" symbols on it, and the encased cent, with an advertising message and KEEP ME AND NEVER GO BROKE or similar around the coin. These first appeared as souvenirs at the Pan-American Exposition in Buffalo in 1901.
  11. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member


    Hitler with party members 1930
    My thought was Irish, Nazi and Jewish all race's or peoples but I could be miles of tracko_O

    This was symbolised by the adoption as the party emblem of the swastika or Hakenkreuz, at the time widely used in the western world. In German nationalist circles, the swastika was considered a symbol of an "Aryan race". The Swastika symbolized the replacement of the Christian Cross with allegiance to a National Socialist State.
  12. militarycross

    militarycross Very Senior Member

    Designed by Wirt C. Rowland of the leading Detroit architectural firm Smith, Hinchman and Grylls, the Penobscot Building was the tallest building in Detroit from 1928 until the completion of the Renaissance Center in 1977. The Penobscot Building can be recognized by its red neon ball topping the Indiana limestone with Indian ornamentation referring to the Native American tribe after whom this landmark was named. Notably, the building includes swastikas in bas relief, incorporated as the Indian good luck symbols tby which hey were known when the building was constructed.

    Google Image Result for http://farm1.static.flickr.com/43/83949788_c356478649.jpg?v=0

    My memory is that family members told me it was covered up during the war. I haven't been near it in years and don't recall if they are still in the fascade.

    Your coin question is however, fascinating.


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  13. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Reminiscent of the John Deere Good luck token mentioned here:
    Zara withdraws swastika handbags
    Swastika, clover and star have all been good luck symbols in their time, with a dash of the Illuminati eye just to give it all a further hint of mysticism?



    I think the symbol originally came from India and it is a reverse image of the Swastika, not to be confused with the German Swastika.

  14. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member

    I think the symbol originally came from India and it is a reverse image of the Swastika, not to be confused with the German Swastika.

    Hi Tom, I have heard of the Indian swastika, being the opersate way round to the nazi one, check out the coin I posted the picture of, its the nazi way round
    the coin dose have written on it the great depression which was in the US, a four leaf clover good luck, the all seeing eye is a toyal mistery to me
    It looks more like a coin than a token to me but I realy dont know
    maybe it was ment to signify unity between different races??
  15. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    The 'traditional' Swastika was always placed either way, it's a myth that it was exclusively presented turning one way when used as a good luck symbol, particularly as a garbled generalist symbol for good luck appropriated by other cultures than it's originators. The Nazis kept it in their 'standardised' form, and that seems to have fed the misconception that 'good swastikas' only turn the other way. This one is not a Nazi symbol.

    The 'All seeing eye' or 'eye of providence' is another traditional symbol that was/is popular in the states and across various organisations from government & church to freemasonry, and is also very popular with assorted Illuminati conspiracies. Simply another hotch-potch 'good luck' symbol. Look to American currency for a popular use of it - it would be most appropriate to use a symbol from the dollar bill in a token hoping for recovery from the 30's depression.


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  16. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Nah, the swastika, horseshoe, 4-leaf clover and the wishbone are commonly recognized good luck signs. I suppose the Egyptian one will be one as well.

    This can't simply be a coin as it doesn't have a face value stamped! Only some good luck charm, courtesy of the Waterloo Boy Gasoline Engines of Waterloo, Iowa :)
  17. arkrite

    arkrite Senior Member

    Maybe the designer of the first token mistakenly reversed the swatika design. Could he have been influenced artisticly by what he saw in newspapers? Diestamps are engraved reverse image.
    The designer of the second token was leaving nothing to chance. The only good luck symbol he left out was the rabbits foot.
  18. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    There are two swastikas, left and right handed. The result is more or less immaterial.

    Even the Nazis used both, one on the "face", the other on the "back" of a flag :)
  19. Pete Keane

    Pete Keane Senior Member

    The all seeing eye is a very common religious image, the Knights Templar were very keen on it, but it does pre-date them. It is commonly seen in masonic imagery, but again, it has been adopted for masonic uses. Alongside the 'fish' image it is one of the most enduring Christian symbols, and the Christians probably borrowed it from someone else!

    No co-incidence that the Nazi party used a well known good luck / friendship symbol, bit like the BNP using Winston Churchill and a (Polish, ironically) Spitfire, use a symbol people know and trust to win them over.

    I don't know why a 4-leaf clover is lucky, because its rare I suppose, whether this originated in Ireland I dont know, but they do talk of 'the luck of the Irish'.

    Again, I dont know of the origins of the star, I know in judaism it is the Star of David, but it may pre-date that as a good luck symbol.

    Interesting thread.

  20. Nicola_G

    Nicola_G Senior Member

    Whilst not directly related this incident worried me. I was on a photography course and we had to do some street photography. I live near Southall where there is a large Asian community (Sikhs, Muslims and Hindus). I took a photo of a shirt covered in Swastika symbols, the Swastika being an ancient fertility symbol abused and misused by the Nazis. A black lady who was also on the course commented that she was a bit put out regarding the swastika, which in some ways was understandable, but I explained to her how the Nazis had taken the symbol and perverted it to their own uses. She had never heard of this as a non Nazi symbol, a fact which rather shocked me.

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