Western Cemetery, Hull, England

Discussion in 'War Grave Photographs' started by Capt Bill, Dec 14, 2008.

  1. Capt Bill

    Capt Bill wanderin off at a tangent

    Being new to the area - I pass this unkept place quite often. So today I take myself off for a wander around it.

    My intent was more to take 'artistic' shot - but ended up adding in 51 military headstones from WW1 & 2 that are scattered throughout.

    I came across this young man, 19 yr old 551706 Sgt P.H. Lucas, awarded the DFM
    To die so young, makes you wonder for a moment or two
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    In Memory of
    Sergeant PHILIP HENRY LUCAS

    D F M

    551706, Royal Air Force
    who died age 19
    on 24 September 1940
    Son of Albert Victor and Amy Lucas, of Headingley, Leeds.
    Remembered with honour

    But to add to my feeling of sorrow for one so young, I came across this young man 1602 cadet R.G. Robinson ATC- aged 15! Could he be the youngest to have a military headstone? Im sure someone here will tell me
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    Cadet REGINALD GRAHAM ROBINSON

    1603, 152 Sqdn., Air Training Corps
    who died age 15
    on 20 September 1947
    Son of Walter and Mabel Robinson, of Hull.
    Remembered with honour

    Brings renewed light to the phrase ' they shall not grow old...'
     
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  2. AndyBaldEagle

    AndyBaldEagle Very Senior Member

    Capt Bill

    Didn't happen to get this chap did you?

    Plot 198 QUAID RE 18/05/1945

    Andy
     
  3. Capt Bill

    Capt Bill wanderin off at a tangent

    Capt Bill

    Didn't happen to get this chap did you?

    Plot 198 QUAID RE 18/05/1945

    Andy

    I didnt think of checking the website before my trip,

    there is one section that I didnt check - so i'll go back during the week.
    the military headstones are scattered all over the grounds in ones and twos

    the east side of the road is quite 'neglected'

    Google Maps
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Wireless Operator/Air Gunner

    Air2/9467

    Sergeant Lucas has shown exceptional keenness and efficiency both as an Air Gunner and Wireless Operator. He has been with the squadron since the outbreak of war and has completed 20 operational sorties. The example he has set has been of great value and an incentive to his brother operators and his work in the air obtaining fixes and loop bearings has been a deciding factor in the successful completion of a great many sorties. He is shortly to be sent to OTU for a rest.

    22nd August, 1940.

    Remarks by Station Commander.

    This recommendation is submitted for consideration but I am of the opinion that a Mention in Despatches would be a more fitting award.

    Remarks by AOC.

    This Wireless Operator/Air Gunner has now completed 20 operational flights over enemy territory and his keenness and determination have been an example to other members of his squadron. Strongly recommended for the award of the Distinguished Flying Meda.

    LG 19.11.40


    It looks like the Station Commander was ignored, thankfully.

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  5. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    I came across this young man, 19 yr old 551706 Sgt P.H. Lucas, awarded the DFM
    To die so young, makes you wonder for a moment or two
    [​IMG]
    In Memory of
    Sergeant PHILIP HENRY LUCAS

    D F M

    551706, Royal Air Force
    who died age 19
    on 24 September 1940
    Son of Albert Victor and Amy Lucas, of Headingley, Leeds.
    Remembered with honour

    Details of the above loss.........


    24 September 1940.

    19 OTU.
    Whitley V P5006.
    Training.

    F/S. C H. Ashley +
    Sgt. D S. Proudfoot +
    Sgt. N R. Foley +
    Sgt. E S. Millard +
    Sgt. P H. Lucas DFM +
    Sgt. I D S E. Hay +


    Took off Kinloss for a navigation exercise. At circa 1640 hrs the Whitley emerged from the cloud cover, the base being given as 1,500 feet above ground level, and crashed on Ben Aigen, Moray.


    BCL Vol.7. W R - Chorley
     
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  6. Oldman

    Oldman Very Senior Member

    Cpt Bill
    Contact 152 Squadron Hull Air Training Corps and see if they have the history
    behind this persons demise.
    I know through being a member of the local ATC welfare committee that Air Cadets "helped out" on airfields during the war time period and a lot went on to join the air force during the war years.
    If they do have the history I would be interested to find the reason.
     
  7. Capt Bill

    Capt Bill wanderin off at a tangent

    Re: the crash site

    Aberdeenshire Council Sites and Monuments Record - Moray - NJ34NW0026 - BEN AIGAN

    A cairn is situated on the summit of Ben Aigan, and marks the crash site of Whitely P5006 aeroplane. On a cross country exercise from RAF Kinloss, Whitley P5006 crashed on Ben Aigen ESE of Rothes on the 24th September 1940. None of the crew survived. It was reported in January 2012 that the memorial cairn had been partially dismantled, and the stones apparently re-used to form the letters WA (to represent the name of the aircraft, Armstrong Whitley) on the ground c.100m to the NNE.


    Hillwalkers point about the crash site cairn having been dismantled/re-arranged

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    I’m guessing here but I would say that the “W” represents “Whitley” and the bar of boulders depicting an “A” links with the manufacturers name i.e “Armstrong”. I have since confirmed that the “new” memorial looks directly across Rothes back to the deceased crew’s home base in Kinloss. Here’s a Link to get more information about Whitley P5006.

    Roll of Honour

    19 Operational Training Unit, Aircraft Master Page
     

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