Wellington LN 466

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  1. Ron C

    Ron C Junior Member

    I am new to this, so here it goes.

    I am looking for any information in regards to my Relative
    413050 Flight Sergeant James Gordon Wade, RAAF. He was the pilot of a Wellington mk.X LN 466 that crashed in Italy on the 24/11/43. He was with the 142 Squadron.

    My understanding is the aircraft crashed in to a Mountain approximately 3 miles from Issime. This was due to bad weather, as per radio communications.

    His remains with the rest of the crew was initially buried at Issime and a few years later re- buried in plot 6 row B, Grave 6, in the Malan British Empire Cemetery as a group grave.

    There was additional 2 Australians and 2 British personal on board, they were:

    410323 Sergeant Albert Clive Glenwright, RAAF. Age21.

    415664 Flight Sergeant Jack Frederick Knapp, RAAF.Age23.

    1392140 Flight Sergeant Eric Walter Lawrence, RAFVR. (Navigator/Air Bomber.)

    Age21.

    933794 Sergeant Kenneth Ross Carter, RAFVR. (Wireless Operator/Air Gunner.)

    I am after any British documents in regards to operations that he flew, pictures of the aircraft and crew as I am in Australia any photo’s of his final resting place and of the crash site would be great also. As I am currently tracing the family tree.

    Hope some one out there can help me out.
     
  2. Varasc

    Varasc Senior Member

    I am new to this, so here it goes.

    I am looking for any information in regards to my Relative
    413050 Flight Sergeant James Gordon Wade, RAAF. He was the pilot of a Wellington mk.X LN 466 that crashed in Italy on the 24/11/43. He was with the 142 Squadron.

    My understanding is the aircraft crashed in to a Mountain approximately 3 miles from Issime. This was due to bad weather, as per radio communications.

    His remains with the rest of the crew was initially buried at Issime and a few years later re- buried in plot 6 row B, Grave 6, in the Malan British Empire Cemetery as a group grave.

    There was additional 2 Australians and 2 British personal on board, they were:

    410323 Sergeant Albert Clive Glenwright, RAAF. Age21.

    415664 Flight Sergeant Jack Frederick Knapp, RAAF.Age23.

    1392140 Flight Sergeant Eric Walter Lawrence, RAFVR. (Navigator/Air Bomber.)

    Age21.

    933794 Sergeant Kenneth Ross Carter, RAFVR. (Wireless Operator/Air Gunner.)

    I am after any British documents in regards to operations that he flew, pictures of the aircraft and crew as I am in Australia any photo’s of his final resting place and of the crash site would be great also. As I am currently tracing the family tree.

    Hope some one out there can help me out.


    Hi dear,

    Very interesting.
    I found this wreck, identified it and wrote a book about this search and the story of this plane's last flight!

    Write me back, I will be more than happy to share all this with you, of course.

    Thanks very much for contacting me... Even without knowing me and my book! :)

    Marco
     
  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Hello Ron and welcome
     
  4. Varasc

    Varasc Senior Member

    I am new to this, so here it goes.

    I am looking for any information in regards to my Relative
    413050 Flight Sergeant James Gordon Wade, RAAF. He was the pilot of a Wellington mk.X LN 466 that crashed in Italy on the 24/11/43. He was with the 142 Squadron.

    My understanding is the aircraft crashed in to a Mountain approximately 3 miles from Issime. This was due to bad weather, as per radio communications.

    His remains with the rest of the crew was initially buried at Issime and a few years later re- buried in plot 6 row B, Grave 6, in the Malan British Empire Cemetery as a group grave.

    There was additional 2 Australians and 2 British personal on board, they were:

    410323 Sergeant Albert Clive Glenwright, RAAF. Age21.

    415664 Flight Sergeant Jack Frederick Knapp, RAAF.Age23.

    1392140 Flight Sergeant Eric Walter Lawrence, RAFVR. (Navigator/Air Bomber.)

    Age21.

    933794 Sergeant Kenneth Ross Carter, RAFVR. (Wireless Operator/Air Gunner.)

    I am after any British documents in regards to operations that he flew, pictures of the aircraft and crew as I am in Australia any photo’s of his final resting place and of the crash site would be great also. As I am currently tracing the family tree.

    Hope some one out there can help me out.


    I just wanted to add that I also found several families of the victims, both in England and in Australia.
    I found many original documents, from diaries and chapters to ORBs, and of course local sources, concerning the crash site.

    I published some videos on YT, showing the last course of the plane:

    Cresta del Monte Crabun - YouTube

    A video just from under the crash site, created on August, 2010:

    Operation Pointblank. Towards the crash site.MOV - YouTube

    Or, this year, from the crash site on Mount Voghel (Dame di Challand' mountain group):

    Ricerca sul Monte Voghel - Operation Pointblank. Bombardamenti alleati nel Nord-Ovest - YouTube

    This last video also shows a geodetic joint and other interesting parts from the wreck. Unfortunately, this place is already covered by snow and we are waiting for a large storm front, tomorrow night, so I think that the next research ascents will have to wait until 2012.

    In the end, this is the cover of my book:

    Marco Soggetto

    I tried to find a British or English-writing editor, but it was all vane. The book is, of course, in Italian.
     
  5. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    I am new to this, so here it goes.

    I am looking for any information in regards to my Relative
    413050 Flight Sergeant James Gordon Wade, RAAF. He was the pilot of a Wellington mk.X LN 466 that crashed in Italy on the 24/11/43. He was with the 142 Squadron.

    My understanding is the aircraft crashed in to a Mountain approximately 3 miles from Issime. This was due to bad weather, as per radio communications.

    His remains with the rest of the crew was initially buried at Issime and a few years later re- buried in plot 6 row B, Grave 6, in the Malan British Empire Cemetery as a group grave.

    There was additional 2 Australians and 2 British personal on board, they were:

    410323 Sergeant Albert Clive Glenwright, RAAF. Age21.

    415664 Flight Sergeant Jack Frederick Knapp, RAAF.Age23.

    1392140 Flight Sergeant Eric Walter Lawrence, RAFVR. (Navigator/Air Bomber.)

    Age21.

    933794 Sergeant Kenneth Ross Carter, RAFVR. (Wireless Operator/Air Gunner.)

    I am after any British documents in regards to operations that he flew, pictures of the aircraft and crew as I am in Australia any photo’s of his final resting place and of the crash site would be great also. As I am currently tracing the family tree.

    Hope some one out there can help me out.

    Hi Ron,

    You have most of the information that I have however I do have the collective headstone photo.

    I do have a 2.2 MB photo but cannot upload it here as it exceeds the download limit so have posted the resized version.

    Let me know your email address in a PM and I will send it to you.

    Milan WC2.JPG


    Cheers

    Geoff
     

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  6. Ron C

    Ron C Junior Member

    Hi Ron,

    You have most of the information that I have however I do have the collective headstone photo.

    I do have a 2.2 MB photo but cannot upload it here as it exceeds the download limit so have posted the resized version.

    Let me know your email address in a PM and I will send it to you.

    View attachment 66064 View attachment 66065


    Cheers

    Geoff

    Thanks a lot for the Photo's PM sent
     
  7. Ron C

    Ron C Junior Member

    Hello Ron and welcome


    Hello and thank you
     
  8. Ron C

    Ron C Junior Member

    I just wanted to add that I also found several families of the victims, both in England and in Australia.
    I found many original documents, from diaries and chapters to ORBs, and of course local sources, concerning the crash site.

    I published some videos on YT, showing the last course of the plane:

    Cresta del Monte Crabun - YouTube

    A video just from under the crash site, created on August, 2010:

    Operation Pointblank. Towards the crash site.MOV - YouTube

    Or, this year, from the crash site on Mount Voghel (Dame di Challand' mountain group):

    Ricerca sul Monte Voghel - Operation Pointblank. Bombardamenti alleati nel Nord-Ovest - YouTube

    This last video also shows a geodetic joint and other interesting parts from the wreck. Unfortunately, this place is already covered by snow and we are waiting for a large storm front, tomorrow night, so I think that the next research ascents will have to wait until 2012.

    In the end, this is the cover of my book:

    Marco Soggetto

    I tried to find a British or English-writing editor, but it was all vane. The book is, of course, in Italian.


    Thank very much Marco the footage is great
     
  9. Varasc

    Varasc Senior Member

    Yes, this is the Milan War Cemetery, Cascina Bellaria, not so far from here (I am working in Milan, this morning). A nice and quiet place.
     

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