Wellington 5417 Crew

Discussion in 'The War In The Air' started by Arthur Arculus, Aug 16, 2013.

  1. Arthur Arculus

    Arthur Arculus Junior Member

    Greetings,
    Sometime ago a lady called Mandy made a reference to a crew member of this aircraft ,Sgt Walter Gerorge Tait, belonging to the pre war Bognor Cycling Club , I am researching on the NZ Member of the crewP/O. R G Lindsay.

    I would be pleased if she could enlighten me more on Sgt Tait.
    Any information on him would be appreciated,
    Thanks,
    Arthur
     
  2. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

  3. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    If you want to know more about P/O Lindsay's time at 104SQN, I would suggest chasing down the squadron histories leading up to his loss (as one source of info):




    http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/37124-raf-squadron-orbs-digitised-by-tna/?hl=digitised


    I suppose some more precise info could be obtained from the SQN ORB available for £3.36 per document from TNA.

    Most months have two separate files - one actual ORB showing aircraft / crews / missions and the other the appendix with narrative showing postings in & out, losses etc.

    For around 13 quid you could get all of the files for a couple of months and get all of the background on operations leading up to their loss.
     
  4. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    The RAF Loss Card notes that this was their first Operation to Hamburg or Emden for W5417 and its crew.
    Walter George Tate (not Tait) and Adams, Cooke, 2nd pilot C K German, Lindsay, Sperring and Tate (W/Op) no further information received.
    Another 104 Sqdn Wellington was lost that day, over the UK (well White and Wilmot are buried in the UK) so there might be mentions in the Squadron ORB about both aircraft.
     
  5. Arthur Arculus

    Arthur Arculus Junior Member

    Thanks for all your replies and the correct spelling of Tate! sorry about that.

    What I am really after at the moment, as I have the gen on the loss of W5417, is any furthur information on Tate from this young lady ,Mandy, who posted on this site sometime ago .

    I am 86 and have done research for the last 40 odd years.

    Thanks to you all.,
    Arthur. (An old Surrey lad).
     
  6. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    Mandy hasn't posted here since asking after Walter but I have sent her a message (if her email is still unchanged) alerting her.
    Here's hoping she will respond.
     
  7. mandy hall

    mandy hall Junior Member

    Arthur has been in contact this morning by PM. Unfortunately, I didn't get anymore information on Walter Tate than is shown in the other thread.

    Mandy
     
  8. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    All I can add is a little from researching on Family websites
    Name: Walter G Tate. Mother's Maiden Surname: Ingram. Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1922
    Registration District: Westhampnett, Sussex.Volume: 2b. Page: 512

    TATE, WALTER GEORGE. Rank: Sergeant. Service No: 1255945. Date of Death: 15/01/1942. Age: 20.
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve. 104 Sqdn.
    Panel Reference: Panel 94. Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL
    Additional Information: Son of Thomas Walter and Dorothy Rose Tate, of Bognor Regis, Sussex.

    Name: Thomas Walter Tate.Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1900. Registration District: Westhampnett, Sussex
    Volume: 2b. Page: 371.

    Name: Thomas Walter Tate. Birth Date: 2 Mar 1900. Date of Registration: Mar 1995. Age at Death: 95.
    Registration District: Chichester, Sussex. Register Number: BR32. District and Subdistrict: 7791. Entry number: 295.

    May b worth enquiring at Chichester library if they have a Family History section or Family History Society that may help further
     
  9. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    For the Emden raid, only two german claims exists:

    Uffz. Zipperlein, 4.NJG 1: Whitley V, 51 Sqn, 2215h, crashed at Rottevalle

    Marine-Flak Abt. 236: Hampden, 2200h, crashed in Dollart , Larrelt

    Hope this helps
     
  10. Arthur Arculus

    Arthur Arculus Junior Member

    Thanking everyone for their replies, I received the signal from Mandy, replied and it appears that she has no more gen on Tate, the other entries were quite helpful but it would be pleasing to hear more on Tates cycling days to add to his story.

    Well done everyone.

    Arthur.
     

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