War Memorial Research- Can you help please?

Discussion in 'War Cemeteries & War Memorial Research' started by Sherwood Forester, Dec 26, 2007.

  1. Sherwood Forester

    Sherwood Forester Member

    I am researching the local war memorial in Mansfield Woodhouse, Notts and am just starting the Second World War names. I still have loads to do on my Great War research, but there is no time to start the Second War like the present.

    I have been fortunate so far in finding the majority of those named, but unfortunately there are several that i am unable to find. Can anyone assist me please with the following?

    Ball B
    Hunt J
    Johnson R
    Mallatratt A
    Owen H
    Peters F
    Randall W
    Rathbone G
    Redfern G
    Straw T
    Truman J
    Walters B I
    Woodcock R G

    I am very new to the Second War research side and have to admit that i may have missed any of the above as all i have searched so far is the CWGC website.

    If anyone has any tips as to how to research the Second War stuff, i would be extremely grateful for any tips, pointers etc.
    The Great War is my subject, so just having a go at this memorial.

    Thanks
     
    Sherwood Forester, Dec 26, 2007
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  2. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Glad you made it over here for GWF.

    I am having a few days off at present, so don't have my WW2 Army Roll of Honour to hand. Will make some checks for you shortly, if someone doesn't beat me to it!

    For the ones you have found, feel free to post some details of them in case we can add more from the books, war diaries etc that many of us have.
     
    Paul Reed, Dec 26, 2007
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  3. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    I am researching the local war memorial in Mansfield Woodhouse, Notts and am just starting the Second World War names. I still have loads to do on my Great War research, but there is no time to start the Second War like the present.

    I have been fortunate so far in finding the majority of those named, but unfortunately there are several that i am unable to find. Can anyone assist me please with the following?

    Ball B
    Hunt J
    Johnson R
    Mallatratt A
    Owen H
    Peters F
    Randall W
    Rathbone G
    Redfern G
    Straw T
    Truman J
    Walters B I
    Woodcock R G

    I am very new to the Second War research side and have to admit that i may have missed any of the above as all i have searched so far is the CWGC website.

    If anyone has any tips as to how to research the Second War stuff, i would be extremely grateful for any tips, pointers etc.
    The Great War is my subject, so just having a go at this memorial.

    Thanks

    Just managed to find one for you.- 2736777 Gdsmn.Johnson Reginald 3rd Btn Welsh Guards. Buried at Enfidaville Cemetery. Tunisia.
     
    ADM199, Dec 27, 2007
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  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Good work on finding him, Brian.
    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    <TABLE class=datatable cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="97%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR id=tr_death><TH vAlign=top align=right width="30%">Date of Death:</TH><TD id=td_death>09/04/1943</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    From Ken Ford's Mailed Fist.

    On Djebel Rhorab, the 3rd Welsh Guards were putting in their first major attack of the war. The Battalion had replaced the all but destroyed 2nd Hampshires in 1st Guards brigade and now began their initiation into action. Their assault began at 06.30 hr just as daylight began. As with the Americans, the initial stages of the attack were across several miles of open ground in full view of the enemy. Artillery and mortar fire fell among them during the whole of the advance . Return fire from 12th RHA helped limit some of the enemy concentration , but casualties began to mount. By 09.30 hr all four of the rifle companies had made it to the base of the hill and some guardsmen had started to move up its rocky slopes.
    Here the volume of enemy fire increased, artillery shells having been replaced by mortar bombs and machine gun bullets.
    The advance was beginning to to take its toll on the battalion . Several section and platoon leaders lay dead or wounded and the assault began to slacken. Wireless contact betwwen the companies and battalion HQ was becoming difficult. Men were going to ground, seeking shelter where they could among the boulders and scrub that covered the hillside. The 3rd Welsh Guards were beginning to run out of determination.


    Anthony, this may help you too.
    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/searching-someone-military-genealogy/12597-geoffs-search-engine-ww2.html

    As for moving on from The Great War, you may notice I'm very definatley moved on from then as I hardly ever post on GWF anymore.
    Welcome to this forum, hope we can help.
    Owen.
     
    Owen, Dec 27, 2007
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  5. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Paul Reed, Dec 27, 2007
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  6. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    I had also forgot Geoff's excellent CWGC search engine which now has a WW2 application here:

    http://www.********.co.uk/cgi-bin/search39-47.php

    A quick search shows 392 results for 'Mansfield'.

    Hi Paul,
    there is only one problem with a search for Mansfield.During WW2 Mansfield was a seperate area to Mansfield Woodhouse which looked after its own affairs. It wasn't until years later that Mansfield District Council was created and took in the Local Village Councils such as Mansfield Woodhouse.
    I think the Memorial Book at Mansfield Civic Centre was created using the old Mansfield Council boundaries.
    Perhaps a request to the C.W.G.C. would produce a list of those from the Village who died in WW2. Could mean adding a few names.

    Brian
     
    ADM199, Dec 27, 2007
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  7. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    While one of my mate's is from Mansfield, I must say it is an area I don't know well, so didn't realise that. However, this search engine should allow for a search for 'Mansfield Woodhouse' as well - but as you say, I am sure CWGC (or Terry Denham on GWF) would help.
     
    Paul Reed, Dec 27, 2007
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  8. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    While one of my mate's is from Mansfield, I must say it is an area I don't know well, so didn't realise that. However, this search engine should allow for a search for 'Mansfield Woodhouse' as well - but as you say, I am sure CWGC (or Terry Denham on GWF) would help.

    Hi Paul,
    I am sure you are right,and the only reason I know the areas History is that I have lived here all my life minus 7yrs.


    Brian
     
    ADM199, Dec 27, 2007
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  9. Sherwood Forester

    Sherwood Forester Member

    Guys,

    Thank you all so very much.

    Paul,
    I didn't realise there were so many guys on here from the GWF!! Learn something new everyday i suppose. Thanks for the help and the pointers.

    Brian,

    Thank you too for the interest and for the newly identified chap.

    I will post the details that i have on the other guys at a later date, hopefully someone can help me in finding more out about the lads, as i say i am a complete novice to the Second World War.

    Cheers all
     
    Sherwood Forester, Dec 27, 2007
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  10. izzy

    izzy Senior Member

    hello have you tried local reference libary for newspapers that contain obituarys of servicemen also try regimental museums and squadron associations
     
    izzy, Mar 21, 2008
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