War Diary: 4 Bn Welch Regiment, June - August 1944

Discussion in '53rd (Welsh) Division' started by Swiper, Jun 28, 2009.

  1. Murdo Duncan

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    Hi Al and what fab news. Would it be possible to send to my email ady or dod you prefer posting them here so others may benefit too? Cheers for now, Murdo
     
  2. Murdo Duncan

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    Hi Al and would this be the CO from the beginning of 1940, Sir Charles Coleman? He is listed as being the CO from 1941 to 1944 but isn't more accurate. If he wasn't t the beginning of 1941, who was his predecessor please? Lastly, have you any idea were the battalion was billeted in Banbridge prior to Keady? I need that info to ask a friend in the Banbridge Chronicle if he can find me some photos. Many thanks in advance, Murdo
     

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  3. Aljones

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    Hi Murdo

    'A' company was billeted at Morton's Store, Banbridge at Keady it was the Old Linen Mill - a three storey building near a river.
    I am looking into the other documentation - there is a place on this site for Unit Diaries - it might be better for others if I started to put them there rather than on a forum site?

    It will take a little time for that
    Regards
    Al
     
  4. Murdo Duncan

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    Many thanks Al and great stuff. Must look again which company he was in and let you know. We've got plenty of time - I've "waited" 23 years to listen to my father's tapes but far too late as he died in 2002 and could have answered all my questions then! Have a nice day
     
  5. Aljones

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    Hi Murdo

    I have posted January 1940 on the following: Forums; 53rd (Welsh) Division; unit history, war diaries and docs; under 4th Welch Battalion. See how you get on. I will then post the rest. The war diaries take a bit of getting use to with the terms - OR = Other ranks etc. You can google a lot of the terms to understand them.
    Edit : Link > 4th Welch Battalion Jan 1940 (Bambridge, Northern Ireland) - war diary
    The 4th Welch Battalion consisted of approx 800 officers with four companies and one support. The highest rank of commanding officer is likely to have been a Lieutenant Colonel. The company's (120 men approx) are run by Captains and Lieutenants. The companys are split into platoons. It is rare for more junior ranks to be mentioned although there are some names in December 1940.

    If you haven't got your father's paybook and testimonial you can apply for his records - it costs to have this even for a failed search. A few years ago I got my father's for £38 and it only repeated was in his books anyway. The records are immense - the size of several football pitches apparently. Google how to do this through the MOD.

    It would really assist your research if you understand the army structures - there is a lot of information about.

    I hope that helps

    Al
     
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  6. Murdo Duncan

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    Many thanks lots of good information in your message. I am getting used to some things of course and noted about paybook and testimonial. Someone (I think it was Ewan) said that it takes a very long time to receive them and they only accept checks! Since I live abroad adn don't have a UK account, I need to go through my daughter in London and she hasn't had a check book for a couple of years! January 1940 is too early for my father as he finished OCTU 166 in February and had some leave and waited in vain for his uniform! It didn't arrive in time and was told to report in his best civvy outfit which was his father's WW1 Seaforth Highlanders kilt and a Harris tweed jacket and waistcoat woven by his grandmother!!! The Depot CO shouted at him "What are you doing here flaunting your national dress?" Dear oh dear - good start, eh?
     
  7. Murdo Duncan

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    Hi Al and my father was in C Company in early 1941. He mentions something about going out on a "skee/skeam" which I do not know what it means others than an exercise or something like that. I wouldn't mind knowing who the CO of that company was and apparently a solicitor in civvy street. It would between say end of January and sometime in late March early April and he left for India with some other Welch Regiment officers and sailed from Glasgow on the 24th March 1941 (Convoy WS7 and then WS7X from Durban to Bombay) and arrived in Bombay on 05.05.1941 for a new capture of his services.
     
  8. Murdo Duncan

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    Hi Al and my father was in D Company in Banbridge (early 1940 but say, lrom late February) and they were in a large barn he says. He mentions that the CO Depot, a Major, also came over to Northern Ireland as a Lieutenant-colonel and they got to know each other quite well. Wonder who that was?
     
  9. Murdo Duncan

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    My father went on two interesting courses he says in 1940. One to Bangor for the interpretation of aerial photos and a second one, a snipers course is Bisley and was there on the 15th of September when there was a (favourable) turn in the Battle of Britain. He calls it "A big important matter of history". Can any tell me about Bisley please? My father was with C Company, 4 Welch then and I'd like to know who were the other officers if c-possible, especially his CO and perhaps the Lieutenant-Colonel who had been a Major in charge of he Depot in Cardiff when he arrived in a kilt and received a bollocking!
     

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