War diaries of regiments in the 53rd Welsh Division.

Discussion in '53rd (Welsh) Division' started by Oldleg, Aug 5, 2018.

  1. Oldleg

    Oldleg Well-Known Member

    I am planning a visit to the National archives on Tuesday and I am having trouble finding the catalogue reference for the war diaries for a lot of the war diaires. Can anyone help? I just need the numbers and I will do the rest. It is for August 1944.

    53rd Welsh Regiment, 4th,6th and 7th batallion royal Welsh fusiliers, 1st battalion Oxford and Buckinghamshire light infantry, 1st battalion highland light infantry, 1st batallion East Lancashire regiment, 2nd battalion the monmouthshire regiment, 81st and 83rd field regiment royal artillery, 133 field regiment royal artillary, 71st anti tank regiment royal artillary, 1st batallion, Manchester regiment.

    I did have the 53rd welsh regiment's diary but can't find it now. I am only in the uk for a short period and am up against the wall time wise, so, any help with this would be very much appreciated. orry if some people might think I being a pain.
  2. DannyM

    DannyM Member

    Some of the reference numbers you are looking for.

    WO 171/1356 1 Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry 1944 Jan.- Dec.
    WO 171/1269 1 Buckinghamshire Battalion (Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry) 1944 Jan.- Dec.

    WO 171/1309 1 Highland Light Infantry (City of Glasgow Regiment) 1944 Jan.- Dec.

    WO 171/1330 1 East Lancashire Regiment 1944 Jan.- Dec.

    WO 171/1348 2 Monmouthshire Regiment 1944 Jan.- Dec.

    WO 171/979 81 Regt. 1944 Jan.- Dec.

    WO 171/980 83 Regt. 1944 Jan.- Dec.

    WO 171/993 33 Regt. 1944 Jan.- Dec.

    WO 171/923 1 Regt. 1944 Jan.- De

    WO 171/1336 1 Manchester Regiment 1944 Jan.- Aug.
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  3. DannyM

    DannyM Member


    A few more.

    WO 171/1389 4 Royal Welch Fusiliers 1944 Jan.- Dec.

    WO 171/1390 6 Royal Welch Fusiliers 1944 Jan.- Dec.

    WO 171/1391 7 Royal Welch Fusiliers 1944 Jan.- June
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  4. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian Patron

    WO 171/923 71 Anti-Tank Regiment, 1944 Jan.- Dec.
    WO 171/4775 71 Anti-Tank Regiment, 1945 Jan.- Oct.

    P.S. this is a bit shameless of me, I know, but I would be interested in a copy of 171/4775, if you happen to take photos of it.
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  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I already have most of them copied already...I could have saved you a trip ;)
  6. Oldleg

    Oldleg Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately I can not order your docs, the system won't let me order all as they limit the numbers of doc ordered against the reader's card.
  7. Oldleg

    Oldleg Well-Known Member

    The three welsh fusilier diaries, do you have copes of those?
  8. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian Patron

    No worries. Best of luck with your trip!
  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    In fact I have more than I thought, I've got all of them except three on your list.
  11. AOK4

    AOK4 New Member


    I am looking for copies from the war diaries of 53rd Welch Division from 1 to 8 September 1944 (app.), area Menin (Menen) to Kortrijk (Courtrai).

    Kind regards,
  12. Wapen

    Wapen Well-Known Member

    Hi Chris C - and anyone else esp Stolpi,
    I'm doing the Brit side of Veritable and will be hoovering up the 53rd Div diaries for Feb and Mar 45. Are these any use to you and are you willing to trade some Canadian stuff? I'm short 1 Cdn Army planning info to put the Brit actions in context. Here's the list I'm ordering (green) and hoping to get later (red).
  13. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian Patron

    Hi Wapen,

    My interest is strictly on the anti-tank (well, Archer) side of things and I have that WD now. But what do you need from Library and Archives Canada? Maybe I can look into copying it on my next trip.

    PS I expect 'Swiper' has already copied most or everything you're going to copy.
  14. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

    Wapen - I have most of 53rd Welsh will sent you a PM
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  15. Wapen

    Wapen Well-Known Member

    Love the Archer! Not sure I'd be keen on being crew myslef mind...

    I will (eventually) suck up almost all of the Brit diaries but will need to have Cdn Army and Corps level. My current concern is the early planning notes if they survived. I was hoping to find a Canadian willing to trade. I'll try to tag 'Swiper'.
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  16. Wapen

    Wapen Well-Known Member

    Hi Stolpi - I've got em! Except the red ones. Email on the way.
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  17. Moin, do you have anything on C Coys attack on Schweinebarth, google comes up a little thin!!
  18. Julien Woestyn

    Julien Woestyn New Member

    Hello everyone, Forgive my bad English... I am a resident of the village of Ploegsteert in Belgium (near the French border... notably Armentières, Bailleul, Nieppe). I'm trying to trace the path of the soldiers who liberated my village 78 years ago to the day... According to my research, these would be units of the 53rd Welsh Infantry Division 71st Infantry Brigade Could you confirm that? In advance, many thanks for your help. Julien Woestyn
  19. Wapen

    Wapen Well-Known Member

    Hello Julien. I don't have the diaries for that time but the Div history is next to me, and they did cross the border at Armentières but gives no detail.
    Hope that helps.
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  20. Julien Woestyn

    Julien Woestyn New Member

    Thank you for this photo and your feedback. The city of Armentières being mentioned, the beer border mentioned in the book is indeed LE BIZET-PLOEGSTEERT. Most direct route to Wervick, Roeselare, etc. :)
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