Veterans still with us......

Discussion in 'Airborne' started by airborne medic, Nov 5, 2010.

  1. airborne medic

    airborne medic Very Senior Member

    Just a general comment really from the latest newsletter of the Arnhem Veteran Club.....

    September 2010 the Club has a strength of 359....a loss of 56 which is about 13.5% of the membership. As the Secretary said they actually lost 67 but gained 11 members who came back.....
    Of this 359:
    282 1st Airborne Division
    50 Glider Pilots
    19 RAF/Air Despatch
    3 1st Polish Brigade
    2 4th Dorsets
    3 Dutch Nationals

    Around 12,000 went to Arnhem.....a band of brave men slowly fading away.....How many Battle of Britain aircrew are still around for example???

    Then the same newsletter gives the names of 14 men who were at Arnhem in the 'Last Post' section.......
     
  2. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    I heard yesterday of a George Kay from the SAS who is still alive(90) and
    apparantly dropped prior to the Battle near Arnhem. He has been on the bridge then, at least, thats the story. Maybe others know more.


    Ron....
     
  3. airborne medic

    airborne medic Very Senior Member

    Don't wish to decry this but is this another of those myths about Arnhem......???

    I recall the municipal archivist of Arnhem having to get Dutch newspapers to print apologies for 'fanciful' stories around Arnhem that surfaced in 2004.....
     
  4. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    Well, I know relatives from him come to Arnhem each year so I would say
    it's very early to call it a Myth..


    Ron...
     
  5. airborne medic

    airborne medic Very Senior Member

    I heard yesterday of a George Kay from the SAS who is still alive(90) and
    apparantly dropped prior to the Battle near Arnhem. He has been on the bridge then, at least, thats the story. Maybe others know more.


    Ron....

    Can you tell us more abour George...when did he land, what he did on the bridge and how he got back etc etc????
     
  6. Paul Pariso

    Paul Pariso Very Senior Member

    George is on the left! I met him and his pal, Ricky Clitheroe when they came to London to hand in a petition to the PM. Seems he still has a lot of fight in him! :D
     

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  7. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    Can you tell us more abour George...when did he land, what he did on the bridge and how he got back etc etc????

    AM, the only thing I know is he has been on the south side of the bridge
    and probably this was shortly before the Battle.
    If it is a myth so it is, but it might be true as well, who knows??
    I will try to find out more...


    Ron...
     
  8. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

    AM, the only thing I know is he has been on the south side of the bridge
    and probably this was shortly before the Battle.
    If it is a myth so it is, but it might be true as well, who knows??
    I will try to find out more...


    Ron...
    I found this."An if you’re good I will introduce you to a good mate George Kay. He was with 3 Para during Arnhem managed to get back to UK then went SAS during Normandy.
    After the SAS was disbanded for a time he moved to Africa and was involved in formation of the Rhodesian SAS a true gent."
    Who is 'Bob Spour'???? - Page 66 Only trouble with this "WENT SAS DURING NORMANDY" that was June Arnhem was in September:huh:
     
  9. airborne medic

    airborne medic Very Senior Member

    I think I know Ricky Clitheroe will see if he can help via the ABN.....
     
  10. GPRegt

    GPRegt Senior Member

    Just to bring this thread back on track.

    There are still nearly 400 veterans of the Regiment who are Assn members. The Assn has around 600 members in total. There are others who aren't members, and of course their number is unknown.

    Steve W.
     
  11. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

  12. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    Sorry, to knock it back of thread again, but having met GK a number of times thought this might bring some fact to the myth etc.

    Pte George Kay remembers hell of Dunkirk on 70th anniversary of retreat | Mail Online

    George's SAS days where post WW2, and as said above he was 3rd battalion at Arnhem.

    P

    Great

    Now there are only 2 questions left and the Myth has become true.

    1. Did he reached the bridge
    2. If so, has he been on the southside

    I know, no 2 is unlikely but that is what i have been told.

    Ron...
     
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  14. Paul Pariso

    Paul Pariso Very Senior Member

    I found this pic on the Paradata website and I've added the names that were given on the site. I wonder if the G Kay, fourth from the right on the back row is our man??
    All the best...........:)
     

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  15. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

    I found this pic on the Paradata website and I've added the names that were given on the site. I wonder if the G Kay, fourth from the right on the back row is our man??
    All the best...........:)
    Nice one Paul;) Would make sense mate ties in being 3 Para.
     
  16. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    Nice pic Paul, he could be one of the few of 3 Para who made it to the Bridge, isn't it?


    Ron...
     
  17. arnhem2280

    arnhem2280 Member

    Whilst trawling through the National Archives I came across George Kay's POW questionairre filled in and signed by him which states that he was captured on 20th September at Arnhem and remained a POW until his escape on 24/4/45 when he returned to Allied lines.

    I don't know if this helps as to whether he was either on the bridge or not.

    As an aside all the POW reports for Arnhem I have seen have shown the place of capture as Arnhem so far I have never seen any mentioning Osterbeek but this is probably not suprising as quite possibly most of those involved thought of the whole operation as being in Arnhem.

    If anyone has seen any showing a different place of capture I'd be interested to hear from them.

    Cheers

    Arnhem
     
  18. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    Thanks Arnhem, I would say the date and place fits nice into the story.


    Ron...
     
  19. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    George missed Arnhem this year but was here the years before:)
     
  20. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Airborne Medic

    You may,or may not know, that if you go into EDIT mode on your first posting on this thread and then go into ADVANCED you have the opportunity to amend the thread title.

    If it's not asking too much, could you alter the title of this thread from "Veterans still with us" to "Veterans fortunately still with us" ?

    Every time I see this thread title I have to resist the urge to see if there is a list and that I am still on it :)

    Best regards

    Ron

    Further thoughts on the same subject:
    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/general/13549-how-many-british-ww2-veterans-still-around.html
     

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