Venlo Cemetery

Does anybody know where Venlo War Cemetery was located?

It seems like all of the casualties who were previously buried there were moved to Jonkerbos War Cemetery after the War.

One of my relatives did the Venlo to Mook to Jonkerbos route to his final resting place.

 

On the Mook Cemetery link I posted a link to a file which had the title VEMLO Cemetery ? The error has since been corrected to Venlo . Its an album containg 54 photographs ? It may contain the location ?
Venlo Cemetery | The National Archives
Catalogue description
Venlo Cemetery
This record is held by Shropshire Archives
Castle Gates
Shrewsbury
England
SY1 2AQ
Visit website:- Home
Telephone: 0345 678 9096
Email: archives@shropshire.gov.uk

Reference: 6005/SHYKS/96/1589
Title: Venlo Cemetery
Description:
Album of 54 coloured photographs of Venlo cemetery and views of Dutch towns in which 2nd Battalion KSLI were involved, Jan 1945. Copies of letters and roll of honours.
Date: 1993
Held by: Shropshire Archives, not available at The National Archives
Language: English
Physical description: 3 items
Administrative / biographical background:
132.85 (1921) & King's Shropshire Light Infantry, 2nd Bn


Kyle

 

Thanks Kyle. Yes I had seen the previous link, and gone through the channels to enquire further at Shropshire Archives but they dont have details of its location, just the photos with no further details.

 

Tony I may have found it .
Looking at a Canadian casualty
FLIGHT SERGEANTCECIL LOUIS GERDING
Service Number: R/115979
who is buried at Jonkerbos he was originally buried at Venlo Military Cemetery ? I looked on the Canada Veterans Affairs site and using the advanced search :-

Advanced search - Canada.ca

Find the original grave marker from his 1st grave at the German cemetery in Venlo (Dr. Blumenkampstraat, behind the St. Joseph hospital)

A further article in De Limburger ,which I can only view a part translation :-

Duitsers en geallieerden werden tijdelijk gemengd begraven in Venlo

Germans and Allies were temporarily mixed in Venlo
Emergency cemeteries were built here and there during the war years. A German 'heroes' cemetery' was located on Blumenkampstraat in Venlo from May 10, 1940 to early 1949. In the end, more Allies than Germans were buried there.

Another site another airman from Venlo :-
John Aubrey Trevor Garrould - Oorlogsslachtoffers Gemeente Deurne

1st grave of John Aubrey Trevor Garrould at the cemetery at Dokter Blumenkampstraat in Venlo, his grave was adopted and maintained by Eugene Vos, GP at Blerick.

Venlo War Cemetery Photo below for visual reference



Might this help

Kyle

 

Oh bloody well done you two !

 

Holmes and Watson at their best. Thanks you two.

As it happens, the location meant nothing to me.............until i looked on Google Earth.

I had previously searched for the location about 5 years ago, and had got the Dokter Begraafplaats street name, but couldnt find details to pinpoint where on the street it was. Near the end of the street is a Library, part of the College/University I believe. Looking back maybe if I had contacted them they could have pinpointed it for me, but wheres the excitement in that?

Thanks again chaps.

 

I think the two b/w photos have been taken from roughly where the red dots are, or maybe a little further back, rather than the street further down. On one photo they show 9 rows of graves (count the shadows) and on the other only shows 7 or 8 rows. 9 rows wouldnt have taken up a lot of room, no more than 30 metres from the field border so the photographer would have been about on the line of the large building (flats). On the first b/w photo, a border can clearly be seen on the right hand side, and on the other photo the Cemetery is obviously bordered by the road. For all we know, what we can see may be the total extent of the Cemetery. After all, Venlo was one of the 'temporary' Cemeteries that the Germans started for 'German Heroes', but by the end of the War there were more Allied casualties than Germans buried there, so I cant see it being a huge plot of land.

 

From the venlo archives;- Home | Gemeentearchief Venlo

Cemetery of German soldiers (Heldenfriedhof) in the Meeuwbeemd on the Dokter Blumenkampstraat. In the background: the Gashouder ("Gaaskaetel") and on the right: the houses of the Boerendansweg.

Kyle

 

Same source

Caption:-
Cemetery of the fallen German soldiers (Heldenfriedhof) in the Meeuwbeemd on the Dokter Blumenkampstraat. In the background: opposite the current Municipal Archives in the Dokter Blumenkampstraat is the house of the painter Sef Moonen. Sef Moonen's building is the first of three "semi-detached houses" built in 1938 for the technical staff of St. Joseph's Hospital. Also opposite the current Municipal Archives are the first two houses on the corner of Dokter Blumenkampstraat - Hogeweg.

Similar image caption reads:-

Military emergency graves next to the St. Joseph hospital on the side of the complex, on the Dokter Blumenkampstraat.


Kyle

 

That's the money shot! Now I just need a plan of the Cemetery so I can pinpoint where my relative was originally buried!

I mean.......come on........it can't be THAT difficult can it?

 

Kyle

 

Okay after that initial shock
I shall delve into the Venlo Archives and see what I can find?



Kyle

 

According to the brass ejected in the clip it took this guy five shots to shoot himself - some apparently simple things can be difficult

 

Tony using the same link I posted earlier they hold :-
Archives

OV11 Topography
Documentation folder 482 War Cemetery, former
Street name: Doctor Blumenkampstraat
Place name: Venlo
View archive access: Topography

OV11/ OV11 - Topography
Documentation folder 482 War Cemetery, former
Street name:
Doctor Blumenkampstraat
Place name:
Venlo

77 Images relating to `Blumenkampstraat` some of individual as well as rows of graves (you might be lucky and find your relative? ) The images shown are low resolution with options to order and range up to the 1980`s ?

Above Caption;- Military emergency cemetery on the side of the St. Joseph hospital on the Hogeweg.



St. Joseph's Hospital, seen from the air. Date postmark 10-08-1948. Right: the Doctor Blumenkampstraat.





Airmens graves captioned `British Soldiers` Heslop, Allan?, Somers,Wright and Rose.

Theres another photograph showing Dutch Graves from 1940 originally captioned as above `Blumenkampstraat` but then corrected and noted there were no Dutch graves in the former war cemetery and the photo/image was from an earlier cemetery from 1940 in a side street off the Hogeweg, near the St. Joseph hospital.

The Hospital was demolished in 1983-84.

Kyle

 

Oh thats bloody great Kyle! Thanks for that!

 

So Mr Jinks, are we now saying that there may be TWO Cemeteries that are officially listed as on Dokter Blumenkampstraat, as because St Joseph Hospital was on that street, that the adjoined Cemetery, even though it is set well back from the Street front, is officially on the same street, even though access seems to be from Hogeweg?
So those areas in red are definite Cemeteries with Allied War graves, proven by photos, and the green MIGHT be an unseen section of the first Cemetery?

And isnt it just fantastic that the CWGC have introduced a new layout for their website and none of the Archive documents are viewable. I seem to remember that happened the last time they messed about with the layout.

 

Or could it be 3 Cemeteries?