Vengence Weopons stratagy

Discussion in 'General' started by kfz, Apr 25, 2006.

  1. Kitty

    Kitty Very Senior Member

    51highlands response rings a bell. [just editing in 'and Morse' too, damn this crossover posting!!]Makes sense that the info twisted incremental fire adjustments rather than sent bad info in the first place, wonder if the agents were told of particular 'test shots' being sent out for them to look out for?

    Maybe just looking out for big craters instead? I think it was general areas of where the V's landed, then report back if the ranging was correct. If they fell short double agents said "yeah, great targeting chaps, carry on". if they were on target, then it was "Sorry chaps, way off the mark, got to go shorter/further to hit them".
    Makes you wonder why the germans didn't send over PRU's to check what they were being told. Odd.
     
  2. morse1001

    morse1001 Very Senior Member

    That's what I thought. you're obviously dead right with the psychological weapon bit.

    51highlands response rings a bell. [just editing in 'and Morse' too, damn this crossover posting!!]Makes sense that the info twisted incremental fire adjustments rather than sent bad info in the first place, wonder if the agents were told of particular 'test shots' being sent out for them to look out for?

    The test firing were all made from pedemunde. All that was required at the Ski Slope Sites was to enter the correct data by adusting the prop on the nose.
     
  3. Kitty

    Kitty Very Senior Member

    The test firing were all made from pedemunde. All that was required at the Ski Slope Sites was to enter the correct data by adusting the prop on the nose.

    And then duck as 617 dropped Grandslams from every direction.
     
  4. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    The test firing were all made from pedemunde. All that was required at the Ski Slope Sites was to enter the correct data by adusting the prop on the nose.
    cheers, I thought there would have to be some correlation between launch and impact area. That ramp at Duxford's hardly what you'd call portable, roughly how many of those did the swine have??
    I was amazed there looking at just how many were thrown over, I'd thought it was only a few hundred....I wasn't even close.
     
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Go to this site. The facts are amazing. Also there are film clips of V weapons.
    http://www.ww2guide.com/vweapon.shtml#vfilms

    A few extracts.

    The He 111H-22 - a V-1 flying bomb launcher
    Trials conducted at Peenemunde in 1943 demostrated that a modified He 111 could carry and launch a V-1 buzz bomb. About 20 He 111H-6, He 111H-16, and He 111H-21 were modified to carry the V-1 underwing and redesignated He 111H-22.
    Starting in July of 1944 Bomber Gruppen III/KG 3 based in Holland and equipped with the Heinkel He 111H-22 began a campaign against the UK code-named Operation Rumpelkammer (Lumber Room).
    During the following six weeks these missile carriers successfully launched 410 flying bombs (300 V-1s against London, 90 against Southampton and 20 at Gloucester.) The bombers would approach the British coastline at very low levels to avoid radar detection and rise up to 450m (1,475 ft) long enough to aim and release the V-1 and dive away. The apparent success of this effort led to all three Gruppen of KG 53 being equipped with the special variant of the Heinkel bomber, a total of one-hundred He 111H-22s joined the campaign in December from bases in western Germany. This enlarged assault with the strength of four Gruppen lasted seven months in which some 1,200 buzz bombs were air-launched at targets in the UK. 77 aircraft were lost while at most only 20% of the buzz bombs fired actually hit their target cities.

    June 13, 1944 - March 29, 1945
    Out of some 10,000 V-1s fired at the UK 2,419 of them hit London and the surrounding area. The V-1s caused 45,731 casualties including 5,126 deaths. Over 130,000 homes were destroyed and a further 750,000 damaged as a result. From July 1944 on Heinkel He 111H-22 bombers carried a modified V-1 missile aloft to fire against England. 1,200 V-1s were launched in this manner resulting in 235 hits on population centers, some against northern cities.
    2,448 V-1 "buss bombs" hit the vital port of Antwerp and the surrounding area out of some 12,000 launched.

    Number built of V-1s : more than 32,000

    V2
    Total production of V-2 rockets exceeded 10,000.
    The V-2 campaign opened up on September 6, 1944 with more than 1,800 missiles stockpiled with army units. 836 Artillerie Abteilung was the unit responsible for the offensive and started with two poorly aimed shots at Paris, France. P> Two days later the V-2 offensive began with missiles fired from heavily concealed and camoflaged sites near Wassenaar, Holland.
    1,120 were launched against England (1,050 actually impacting the ground in that country ) About 4,320 V-2 rockets were fired by March 27, 1945 with another 600 expended in training which mainly took place near Blizna, Poland
     
  6. Dave--

    Dave-- Member

    didnt the RAF have plains tip them on thier sides if they could catch them so they would just fall into the channel or hopefully blank countryside?
     
  7. Herroberst

    Herroberst Senior Member

    A major issue with the V weapons was that they were introduced too late in the war due to the squabbling between the Luftwaffe (V-1) and the Heers(V-2). There was early leg dragging as to which program Hitler would support. Finally he supported both programs and that was too little too late. There was no defense against the V-2 except to destroy its launch point. These were basically operational prototypes, had the Germans had enough time to iron out the bugs they would have been devastating to the Allies. Proof of this was the rush by the Americans and Russians to grab as much info and personnel that worked on the Vs as quickly as possible towards the end of the war.

    After all the V-1 was the first cruise missile and the V-2 the first ICBM.

    They had been working on the A-Bomb and a missile launched from a U-boat.

    A clear example of things to come.
     
  8. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    Re Herroberst's reply; for V2 1944 = Scud desert storm.
     
  9. Herroberst

    Herroberst Senior Member

    Hey first time I looked at your site! Nice memorial Rick. My people are from Leeds Yorkshire area too. Although some of them came to the US and they were of Scottish origin.
     
  10. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    didnt the RAF have plains tip them on thier sides if they could catch them so they would just fall into the channel or hopefully blank countryside?

    They did to some effect with the V-1's (level flyers) but couldn't with the V-2's as they were ICBM (went up - came down)
     

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