US Casualties burial locations

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  1. Philip Reinders

    Philip Reinders Very Senior Member

    Looking for info about 2 US soldiers both killed in Holland, I think USAAF or more likely US Airborne:

    D.H.Froemke 01103167 T 41-43

    T.G.Melendez 3844126 T 43-44

    Thanks
     
  2. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi Philip,
    What sort of information are you looking for. Specifically where they are buried?

    Do you have first names.
    I found a couple by the name of TG Melendez ...

    this a burial result, might it fit?

    Name: Timoteo G Melendez
    Service Info.: PVT US ARMY WORLD WAR II
    Birth Date: 17 Jul 1922
    Death Date: 6 Oct 1944
    Interment Date: 5 Dec 1950
    Cemetery: Ft. Bliss National Cemetery
    Cemetery Address: P.O. Box 6342 5200 Fred Wilson Street Fort Bliss, TX 77906
    Buried At: Section E Site 9737
     
  3. Philip Reinders

    Philip Reinders Very Senior Member

    Yes this is the one, looking at the date probabaly 101 Airborne
     
  4. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Philip,
    No burial record found for Froemke,
    but under enlistment entries was this:

    Name: Donald H Froemke
    Birth Year: 1912
    Race: White, citizen (White)
    Nativity State or Country: Washington
    State: Washington
    County or City: Yakima
    Enlistment Date: 6 Mar 1941
    Enlistment State: Washington
    Enlistment City: Tacoma
    Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
    Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
    Grade: Private
    Grade Code: Private
    Term of Enlistment: Three year enlistment
    Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
    Source: Civil Life
    Education: 4 years of college
    Civil Occupation: Librarian
    Marital Status: Single, without dependents
    Height: 68
    Weight: 159

    “Source Information:
    National Archives and Records Administration. U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: Electronic Army Serial Number Merged File, 1938-1946 [Archival Database]; World War II Army Enlistment Records; Records of the National Archives and Records Administration, Record Group 64; National Archives at College Park, College Park, MD.

    About U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
    This database contains information on about 8.3 million men and women who enlisted in the U.S. Army during World War II. Information contained in this database usually includes: name of enlistee, army serial number, residence (county and state), place of enlistment, enlistment date, grade, army branch, component, term of enlistment, birthplace, year of birth, race and citizenship, height and weight, education, and marital status.

    This database contains information on about 8.3 million men and women who enlisted in the U.S. Army during World War II. While this database contains information on the majority of the men and women who served in the Army during this war, it is not complete and does not represent the entirety of the U.S. Army servicemen. Information found in this database comes from the WD AGO Form 317 (used from 1941-45), WD AGO Form 372 (used from 1945-46), and Enlisted Reserve Corps Statistical cards.”
     
  5. Philip Reinders

    Philip Reinders Very Senior Member

  6. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Froemke acc. to 1920 Census for West Summitview, Yakima, Washington, was actually born in N. Dakota, 3 of his grandparents were born in Germany and he had a brother called Virgil, 3-4 years younger than him.
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    US Roster of WWII Dead
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    Source Information:
    Ancestry.com. U.S. Rosters of World War II Dead, 1939-1945 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: United States. Army. Quartermaster General’s Office. Rosters of World War II Dead (all services). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Army.
    About U.S. Rosters of World War II Dead, 1939-1945
    This database contains the names of those who died in World War II from all U.S. armed services. Information available includes: name of deceased, rank, religion, race, and name of interment site.

    This database contains the names of those who died in World War II (WWII) from all U.S. armed services. Names are listed in alphabetical order according to surname. Information available in this database includes (listed in order as it appears on the image from left to right):



    <DIR><DIR>Name of permanent interment site
    Name
    Rank
    Service Number
    Name of temporary interment site
    Religion
    Race
    Disposition



    </DIR></DIR>
     
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  7. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Philip,
    Finally worked out what the above Roster images mean, complete with comfirmation of service nos. and place of burial. So all above info is definitely for your guys.

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    Name: Donald H Froemke
    Gender: Male
    Race: White
    Religion: Protestant
    Cemetery Name: Washington
    Disposition: According to next of kin
    Service Branch: Army
    Rank: Captain
    Service Number: 1103167

    Name: Timoteo G Melendez
    Gender: Male
    Race: White
    Religion: Catholic
    Cemetery Name: Fort Bliss National Cemetery, El Paso, Texas
    Disposition: According to next of kin
    Service Branch: Army
    Rank: Private
    Service Number: 38441216
     
  8. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

  9. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Philip,
    Bet you have this by now :)
    d

    http://www.ww2-airborne.us/units/326/326images/bcompany_officers_lg.jpg
    Officers of B Company, 326<SUP>th</SUP> AEB in England prior to D-Day. They are (left to right): [1] 2/Lt John M. Mason (killed in Opheusden 7 Oct 1944), [2] 1/Lt Donald H Froemke ( promoted to Captain CO Company B - killed in Opheusden 5 Oct 1944 - [3] Commanding Officer Captain Jack Rogers (killed outside of Carentan, France in mid June, 1944), and [4] 1/Lt. Ray J Hiltunen (KIA Holland 18 Sept 1944).)
    After action report 5/10/1944

    http://www.ww2-airborne.us/units/326/report_5oct44_326b.html

    http://www.ww2-airborne.us/units/326/326_memories.html
    Lt. Donald Froemke took command of Baker Company. According to the After Action Report, written by the Operations Officer of the battalion for October 5, 1944,
    "Captain Froemke was killed while moving across an open field to aid a wounded man". That wounded man was my Father. He had been shot through the back and then wounded in the leg in the small village of Opheusden, Holland. Two Dutch civilians took him into their house and cared for him for three hours before he was evacuated. Since the Germans advanced and occupied the village for a time, my Father assumed or was incorrectly told they were killed by the Nazis for helping him and never talked about what happened.
    Two and half years after his death on May 23, 2000, I discovered a letter in which he talks about these two brave Hollanders. After a eight month search I was able to identity these two Dutch civilians as a brother and a sister, Wim and Dir van den Bosch, who had survived the war but both died in the 1990’s, never knowing the identity of the American they had saved.

    http://www.wwiiadt.org/Our_Heroes/History/Airborne%20Organization.htm
    101st Division Artillery : Brigadier General Anthony C. McAuliffe
    Hq Btry : Captain Williekneff
    81st Airborne AA Bn : Major X. B. Cox, Jr
    A Btry : Captain Thomas Moran
    B Btry : Captain Alphonse Gueymard
    C Btry : Captain William S. Lockman
    D Btry : Captain William G. Joe
    E Btry : Captain Gene B. Ganier
    F Btry : Captain Robert L. Jackson
    321st Glider FA Bn : Lt Col. Edward L. Carmichael
    907th Glider FA Bn : Lt Col. Clarence F. Nelson
    377th Parachute FA Bn : Lt Col. Benjamin Weisberg
    Hq & Service Btry : Captain Charles E. Knight
    A Btry : Captain Charles D. Aldrich
    B Btry : Captain Grover C. Robinson
    C Btry : Captain Marion A. Parrott
    D Btry : Captain Fred C. Culpepper, Jr
    101st Airborne Signal Co : 1st/Lt. William H. Breen, Jr
    326th Airborne Medical Co : Major William Barfield
    326th Airborne Engineer Bn : Lt Col. John C. Pappas (KIA 13 June)
    Hq & Service Co : Captain Walter W. Hogrefe
    A Co : Captain Jack L. Rogers
    B Co : Captain Donald H. Froemke
    C Co : Captain Francis Liberatori
     
  10. Emmanuel

    Emmanuel Junior Member

    Bonsoir ,

    I send you this e-mail from France .
    I have been very impress by the quality of your research .

    I would like a piece of advice .
    I saw results came from Ancestry's web site , but concerning your response :

    Name: Timoteo G Melendez
    Service Info.: PVT US ARMY WORLD WAR II
    Birth Date: 17 Jul 1922
    Death Date: 6 Oct 1944
    Interment Date: 5 Dec 1950
    Cemetery: Ft. Bliss National Cemetery
    Cemetery Address: P.O. Box 6342 5200 Fred Wilson Street Fort Bliss, TX 77906
    Buried At: Section E Site 9737

    Is it another pay site or is it a free site ?

    I thank you very much if you could help me .
    Emmanuel
     
  11. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Bonsoir ,

    I send you this e-mail from France .
    I have been very impress by the quality of your research .

    I would like a piece of advice .
    I saw results came from Ancestry's web site , but concerning your response :

    Name: Timoteo G Melendez
    Service Info.: PVT US ARMY WORLD WAR II
    Birth Date: 17 Jul 1922
    Death Date: 6 Oct 1944
    Interment Date: 5 Dec 1950
    Cemetery: Ft. Bliss National Cemetery
    Cemetery Address: P.O. Box 6342 5200 Fred Wilson Street Fort Bliss, TX 77906
    Buried At: Section E Site 9737

    Is it another pay site or is it a free site ?

    I thank you very much if you could help me .
    Emmanuel

    Bonsoir Manu,

    J'ai mis en place votre message ici parce-que vous avez touche le lien qui 'faire un rapport du message au admin' et donc, toute les membres ne voir pas. J'espiere vous etes d'accord?

    amicalement,

    Paul
     
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  12. Philip Reinders

    Philip Reinders Very Senior Member

    Can you do this also in Dutch Paul?
     
  13. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    In Vlaams, natuurlijk... only joking, my Dutch/Flemish is pretty poor in comparison to some others. I need to spend more time in Arnhem... :lol:
     
  14. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Bonsoir ,

    I send you this e-mail from France .

    I saw results came from Ancestry's web site.

    Is it another pay site or is it a free site ?

    I thank you very much if you could help me .
    Emmanuel

    Hi and welcome to the forum,

    To answer your question, yes Ancestry is fee-based site.
    This is the French version, http://www.ancestry.fr/ They have been offering a free trial period recently. Problem is, you are required to give your payment details straight away, so that should you wish to continue with it, money will automatically be deducted from your account after the trial period is over. :huh: Should you wish to terminate, you need to make sure you contact them in advance of the end date.

    I am not sure though what level of access to information is given with the free trial.

    I didn't renew my subscription I'm afraid, so I can't look up anything for you, but I am sure that there are others on here who do currently have access.

    It would probably be best to open a separate thread of your own to get more attention, possibly entitled, "Ancestry look-up, please".

    Good luck with your research,
    Diane
     
  15. Emmanuel

    Emmanuel Junior Member

    Bonjour Diane ,

    Thank you very much for your response .
    Just could you help me again , just one more .

    About the 'us rosters of World War II Dead 1939-1945" , do you know where i could find the index of this database ? meanings of the numbers ?

    En vous remerciant par avance .
    Sincères salutations .

    Emmanuel
     
  16. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Bonjour Diane ,

    Thank you very much for your response .
    Just could you help me again , just one more .

    About the 'us rosters of World War II Dead 1939-1945" , do you know where i could find the index of this database ? meanings of the numbers ?

    En vous remerciant par avance .
    Sincères salutations .

    Emmanuel


    Bonjour Emmanuel !
    You are welcome; I am sorry I could help you with a search.

    As far as I can see, the index [to surnames] only seems to be available online from ancestry ...
    U.S. Rosters of World War II Dead, 1939-1945 - AncestryLibrary.com

    It is difficult to work out what the numbers are exactly, other than what they generally represent. Ancestry give a list of the headings for each column, but there seems to be no explanation given as to what each Code number, eg for temporary/permanent cemetery, actually means. It is possible an index to these no.s is given at the start of the documents, ie. page 1, or at the end, but unfortunately I am unable to verify.

    The only explanatory information they give is this:

    Source Information:
    Ancestry.com. U.S. Rosters of World War II Dead, 1939-1945 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Original data: United States. Army. Quartermaster General’s Office. Rosters of World War II Dead (all services). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Army.
    About U.S. Rosters of World War II Dead, 1939-1945
    This database contains the names of those who died in World War II from all U.S. armed services. Information available includes: name of deceased, rank, religion, race, and name of interment site.

    This database contains the names of those who died in World War II (WWII) from all U.S. armed services. Names are listed in alphabetical order according to surname. Information available in this database includes (listed in order as it appears on the image from left to right):

    Name of permanent interment site
    Name
    Rank
    Service Number
    Name of temporary interment site
    Religion



    I would try to see who on here has access; there should be someone ...

    Best wishes,
    D
     
  17. Emmanuel

    Emmanuel Junior Member

    Bonjour Diane ,

    Thank you very much .
    "Name of temporary interment site" could be very interesting for some researches .

    This form of results came from ancestry too ?

    Name: Timoteo G Melendez
    Service Info.: PVT US ARMY WORLD WAR II
    Birth Date: 17 Jul 1922
    Death Date: 6 Oct 1944
    Interment Date: 5 Dec 1950
    Cemetery: Ft. Bliss National Cemetery
    Cemetery Address: P.O. Box 6342 5200 Fred Wilson Street Fort Bliss, TX 77906
    Buried At: Section E Site 9737

    This site could help :

    Burial & Memorials Home

    Nationwide Gravesite Locator

    Thank you very much Diane .

    Emmanuel

    Bonjour Paul ,

    Excusez moi , dans ma précipitation , j'ai oublié de vous remercier .
    Merci beaucoup .

    Emmanuel
     
  18. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi Emmanuel,

    Yes, I could see where this would be very useful to know ...

    All the info I posted up for Philip came from Ancestry

    Here is the US military search page
    Military Collections - Ancestry.com
    For the US Vet gravesites, see here.
    Military Collections - Ancestry.com

    Also on the site are original WWII Newsreels.

    That site you found complements this one Find A Grave - Millions of Cemetery Records which is not just for veterans. Some family members have posted up information about their loved-ones, including photos, so it is worth searching too.

    Wishing you well with further research,
    Diane
     

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