Understanding Service Records WW2 Recce

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by granddaughter of a recce, May 6, 2019.

  1. Hello there,

    I was wondering if anybody could help me please ?
    I am in possession of my Grandfather's service records and wondered if anybody could shed some light on them for me please, as I'm not to good at reading old writing and I'm unsure of what some of the numbers for the sections mean.

    I have a service and casualty form and what looks like a record card.

    Just trying to upload the pictures.

    If anybody could help that would be great thanks.

    Thanks

    Claire
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Claire

    Suggest you upload good quality readable scans to this thread for members to help you understand his service records - in the bottom right hand corner of each post there is the option to 'Upload a File' - just make sure each file is less than 2Mb in size otherwise it will be rejected

    TD
     
  3. Hay there TD,

    Thanks for the advice, I'm unable to upload on this thread, however I have added them to my albums.

    Claire x
     
  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    You mean these - to members these may not be in chronological order - I have copied them in the order they appear in the album - My Grandad | WW2Talk

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    TD
     
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  5. Those are the ones thank you so much!

    I'm struggling to work out the numbers/characters on most of it apart from the obvious ones.

    In particular I'm struggling with XList 18a (not sure that this means) and What the E standard for on the Y list.

    Claire
     
  6. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    08.01.1942 Enlists in 14th Battalion Royal Warwickshire Regement (RWR)

    01.11.1942 Transhered to 52 Recce - who he stays with until demob

    01.09.1944 Leaves UK for NWE (North West Europe)
    06.09.1944 Lands in NWE

    I think it might read X/8 A - I dont have details of that but I do know that the X Lists recorded personnel who were absent from their regular units for one reason or another.

    For the 'Y' list all I can find is
    The Y List is composed of non-effectives 1 to 8, sick, detention, leave pending, awaiting discharge, on other duty, etc. It’s possible that some units used letters to donate the category of those on the list hence the (e).
    Lots of soldiers are on the Y list at some time or other, but it is only registered on their records when they are about to be discharged. Other times it is recorded what they are actually doing, leave, hospital etc.
    [Thanks to another member for the details above]

    TD
     
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  8. Hay TD,

    That's great thanks for all your help, u have no remaining family members so trying to get information is difficult.

    I recall Grandad being removed early due to being a Carpenter and he was wounded during the war, never speaking about it much. One of his close friends got KIA and he took a piece of shrapnel to his lower leg from it and it stayed in his leg till 1996 when he had to have it removed!

    He didn't claim his medals till 1996, and he was missing the Italian star, and the war records office said he wasn't entitled to it as the whole regiment didn't go only his unit I don't know whether that's right or not.

    Once I have read the war diaries would you mind if I contacted you in the future if I needed any other information as I'm kind of blind on my own.

    Thanks again

    Claire x
     
  9. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    He would not have earnt an Italy Star as his records show he never went to Italy - he only went to North West Europe (France/Belgium/Holland/Germany) - if you read his records it only shows UK and NWE

    Just put your questions on here as others (members like Recce_Mitch) are much better versed in the Regiment than I ever will be

    TD
     
  10. Brilliant thanks TD,
     
  11. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    X Lists X List.jpg

    Cheers
    Paul
     
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  12. Hay Paul,

    Many thanks for this information, that makes more sense now. I don't suppose you know what the the /8a means? After the X on my grandad records of the (e) on the Y list? I have searched high and low and don't seem to be able to find any information.

    Thanks so much for all your help I really.do appreciate it.

    Kind regards

    Claire x
     
  13. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I dont know what it means but looking at the date and position on the record [22/10/1945] I would assume i would be something to do with his release from the Army, because effectively the next day he is posted to the 'Y' list [2/11/1945] which I think has something to do with going into 'Reserve' i.e he could be recalled at anytime within the next 'x' years if required

    TD
     
  14. Hay TD, thanks for your help it's much appreciated.

    Kind regards

    Claire xx
     

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