Tranlation of Grand fathers service record.

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by cash_13, Dec 10, 2011.

  1. cash_13

    cash_13 Senior Member

    Hi all most off you know me by now and the fact that we have struggled to find my grand fathers ( Dads side ) history as very little was known about him apart from the hearsay of he was pensioned out of the Navy after serving on HMS Ramillies ( we thought this was during WW2 ) and was told he went on to drive those horrific Bomb armourment lorries from Woolwich arsenal during WW2 in the pitch black to all the RAF airfields in the sticks in and around London and the home counties..doing his bit so to speak...

    Again this could only be hearsay....

    Well more by luck than judgement I have finally found it and wondered if anyone can give decipher the broken English and hieroglyphics that records always seem to have :D

    From what we can make out he was a Able or ordinary seaman and pensioned out because of a Fractured right Fibula and seems to be on several different ships in several days, is this where he was being transported home ? What was the Gibraltar mentioned the Gibraltar as in the English Navy base at the foot of Spain and was Pembroke 1 his training depot?.......anything you can make out would be greatly appreciated especially the scribble at the foot of the page.

    One more thing in the section titled No2. What does FE mean and by Porter we was told he worked at the docks could that be his title or work description...?

    Many thanks Lee F

    PS is there a Ministry of Labour list lying in an archives somewhere and if so would that be in Kew?
     

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  2. cash_13

    cash_13 Senior Member

    I have posted a thread in the Genealogy section about my grand father Thomas William Finney and his service record in the Navy.

    loads of people have looked at the thread but no luck yet about transcribing it all....its only a page but I am struggling to understand or even make head or tail of some of the writing or abbreviations..... some of it is faded can anyone help please..

    Here's the link

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/service-records/41390-tranlation-grand-fathers-service-record.html
     
  3. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

    Some notes ans soruces for you:

    Pembroke I: HMS Pembroke I - accounting base at Chatham between 1940 and 1960. (HMS Pembroke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
    Gibraltar: HMS Gibraltar, was an Edgar class cruiser launched in 1892 for service in the Royal Navy. She was built and engineered by Messrs Napier of Glasgow. Of 7,700 loaded displacement, she was coal-fired with four double-ended cylindrical boilers driving two shafts. She could make 20 knots (37 km/h) with forced draught and 18 knots (33 km/h) with natural draught. She was a very good sea boat and an exceptional steamer. Future First Sea Lord John H. D. Cunningham served aboard her as a midshipman.
    During her early career she served mainly on foreign stations. Despite her obsolescence, she saw service in World War I, first with the 10th Cruiser Squadron on Northern Patrol and from 1915 as a depot ship for this group, based in the Shetland Islands.
    Gibraltar was sold in 1923.
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Gibraltar_(1892)) Or it could be the Rock of.
    Ramilies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ramillies_(07) During his time aboard this ship, he spent 14 days in the cells (note in column next to dates)
    Cyclops: HMS Cyclops was repair ship, launched in 1905 as the merchant ship Indrabarah. She was used a fleet storage ship, and then submarine depot ship. She was scrapped in 1947. (HMS Cyclops - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
    Caterbury: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Canterbury_(1915)
    Cleopatra: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Cleopatra_(1915)
    He was an Ordinary Seaman. His character was considered to be standard or moderate.

    He fractured his right femur whilst serving on the Cleopatra.

    He may have been discharged due to the fracture, but there may have been other reasons as the reason given was "Unsuitable for Ordinary Seaman".

    Mark
     
  4. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

  5. cash_13

    cash_13 Senior Member

    Thanks Mark that's a lot to digest, I thought it said unfit for service but in abbreviations.
    But nothing would surprise me he was quite a character any idea what FE stands for?

    Many thanks Lee
     
  6. Richard Lewis

    Richard Lewis Member

    F.E. possibly "First Entry".

    Richard
     
  7. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    F.E. possibly "First Entry".

    Richard

    Richard,

    I tend to go along with your thoughts for FE, ie refering to first entry as Porter.
    Probably the shorthand used by the reporting clerk.

    It does appear that after the broken leg he was classified as unsuitable for Ordinary Seaman duties.
    Perhaps the leg was not healing properly? just a thought.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  8. cash_13

    cash_13 Senior Member

    Cheers Richard never thought of something as simple as that it makes sense..

    Tom, I could be he did have problems with the leg after the war and had a stick also he eventually died in 1966 of a foot infection of the same leg... apparently he hated hospitals and mad every excuse not to go and when they finally got him in he only lasted about a week it was to late.....the antibiotics back then was not quite as they are now!....

    Lee
     

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