Training mission accident - Sgt. Flight Engineer John Treby of Fordham

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  1. Wendyshep

    Wendyshep Member

    In Fordham Essex we lost 4 men in WW2. Each of them have such different stories to their circumstances of death.
    We commemorate the death of John Arthur Treby on the 1st June 1944, he was 19 and a flight engineer with the R.A.F. Volunteer Reserve. John was born and baptised in Fordham and lived there with his parents. I was interested that he was buried in Scotland, so I investigated these circumstances.
    It came to light that he was one of 8 men who died on a training exercise from Lincoln having found 7 other deaths for that date using the CWGC website.

    'On 31 May 1944, a Halifax LL414 aircraft, from the1667 Heavy Conversional Unit Squadron, based at Sandtoft, in Lincolnshire, took flight for a night cross country exercise. It failed to return and it is thought that it crashed in the early hours of 1 June because of bad weather and engine failure; it went down in the Glen Isla area. Onboard the aircraft were eight airmen, six of whom were with the Royal Canadian Air Force. There were no survivors.'

    The eight airmen who perished in this accident were:-
    RCAF Pilot Officer Leslie Llewellyn Williams
    RCAF Flying Officer William Campbell
    RCAF Flight Sergeant obert Trevor Dean
    RCAF Warrant Officer James Stewart MacDonald
    RCAF Thomas Goldie
    RCAF Sergeant Vernon Thomas Shervan
    RAFVR William Sidney Doughty
    RAFVR John Arthur Treby
     

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  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

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    Sgt Sidney William Doughty (Unknown-1944) - Find A...
    Sergeant (Flight Engineer)DOUGHTY, SIDNEY WILLIAM
    Service Number 933062

    Died 01/06/1944

    Aged 20

    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Son of Sidney William and Anne Doughty; husband of Jean Eveline Violet Doughty, of Dagenham.


    INSCRIPTION
    UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN, MY LOVE FAREWELL, BUT NOT GOODBYE
     
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  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

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    Sgt John Arthur Treby (Unknown-1944) - Find A...
    Sergeant (Flight Engineer)TREBY, JOHN ARTHUR
    Service Number 1867730

    Died 01/06/1944

    Aged 19

    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    Son of John R. Treby and Ingeborg H. Treby.


    INSCRIPTION
    AT THE GOING DOWN OF THE SUN AND IN THE MORNING WE WILL REMEMBER THEM
     
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  4. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Name: John Robert Frederick Treby
    Birth Date: 1 May 1899
    Baptism Date: 5 Jul 1900
    Baptism Place: Richmond, St John, Surrey, England
    Father: John Vaustone Treby
    Mother: Maggie Treby

    Name: John Robert Frederick Treby
    Document Year: 1919
    Regimental Number: 115043
    Regiment Name: Royal Army Medical Corps

    Name: John Robert Frederick Treby
    Marriage Age: 21
    Birth Date: abt 1900
    Marriage Date: 25 Jan 1921
    Marriage Place: St Marylebone, Westminster,England
    Father: John Vaustone Treby
    Spouse: Ingeborg Hansina Berg

    Births Jun 1925
    Treby, John A - Berg - Lexden - 4a 1423

    1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
    "Homecrolt ", Hemps Green, Lexden and Winstree R.D., Essex
    NAME DOB OCCUPATION
    John R F Treby 1 May 1899 Mat Making (Blind)
    Ingeborg H Treby 03 Mar 1893 Unpaid Domestic Duties
    Sorry, this record is officially closed.
     
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  5. Wendyshep

    Wendyshep Member

     
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    Tullybrone Senior Member

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  7. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
    42 Hatfield Road, Dagenham M.B., Essex
    NAME DOB OCCUPATION
    Sidney W Doughty 20 Mar 1897 Gardering Labourer
    Anne Doughty 30 Dec 1895 Unpaid Domestic Duties
    Sorry, this record is officially closed.
    Sorry, this record is officially closed.
     
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  8. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Name: Vernon Thomes Sherven
    Birth Place: Filmore North Dakota
    Residence Place: Calgary, Alto
    Service Number: R211938
    Regiment: Royal Canadian Air Force
    Rank: Sergeant
    Next of Kin: Conrad Sherven
    Relationship: Stepfather
     
  9. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Name: Leslie Llewellyn Williams
    Birth Place: Foxwarren, Manitoba
    Residence Place: Toronto, Ontario
    Service Number: J85857
    Regiment: Royal Canadian Air Force
    Rank: Pilot Officer
    Next of Kin: Ethel Ilena Williams
    Relationship: Mother
     
  10. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Name: James Stewart MacDONALD
    Birth Date: 13 Sep 1915
    Birth Place: Flat Lands, Rest Co., N.B
    Residence Place: Rest Co., N.B
    Death Date: 1 Jun 1944
    Service Number: R113794
    Regiment: Royal Canadian Air Force
    Rank: Warrant Officer Class I
    Next of Kin: Barbara Helen MacDonald
    Relationship: Wife
     
  11. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Name: Robert Trevor Dean
    Birth Place: Calgary, Alberta
    Residence Place: Vancouver, B.C.
    Service Number: R181350
    Regiment: Royal Canadian Air Force
    Rank: Flight Sergeant
    Next of Kin: Mrs. H. M. Knechtel
    Relationship: Mother
     
  12. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Name: William Campbell
    Birth Date: 10 Dec 1921
    Birth Place: Lanark County, Scotland
    Residence Place: Windosr, Ontario
    Death Date: 1 Jun 1944
    Service Number: J35226
    Regiment: Royal Canadian Air Force
    Rank: Flying Officer
    Next of Kin: Andrew Campbell
    Relationship: Father
     
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  13. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Name: Thomas Goldie
    Birth Place: Scotland, Stevenston
    Residence Place: James, Island, B. C.
    Service Number: R215319
    Regiment: Royal Canadian Air Force
    Rank: Sergeant
    Next of Kin: George Goldie
    Relationship: Father
     
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  15. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    Attached Files:

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  16. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Thanks for your post Dave.....like me you do your best work first thing in the morning:rolleyes:

    Regards

    Steve
     
  17. Blutto

    Blutto Plane Mad

    Met Office summary for June 1944 reports:
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    So potentially unpleasant weather at the time.
     
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  18. Wendyshep

    Wendyshep Member

    Thank you Dave, your attachments much appreciated. Bad enough losing one's life in war, but on a training session. Just shows how dangerous it could get for the airmen.
     
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  20. Wendyshep

    Wendyshep Member

    Many thanks for information.
     

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