Tracing A War Grave

Discussion in 'War Cemeteries & War Memorial Research' started by Paul Reed, Sep 28, 2004.

  1. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    While many experienced members will know this, it is possible to trace the dead of Britain and the Commonwealth from WW2 (and indeed WW1) at the website of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission at:

    http://www.cwgc.org/

    You can also download as .pdf files the Commission's many useful leaflets (eg on WW2 cemeteries in Italy and Normandy) and by email order up specific reports. For example, the CWGC were able to provide me with a list of all the men who died on 6th June 1944.

    It is a great resource and it's all free - use it!
     
  2. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    A typical entry for a soldier is:

    Name: QUERIPEL, LIONEL ERNEST
    Initials: L E
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Captain
    Regiment: Royal Sussex Regiment
    Secondary Regiment: Parachute Regiment, A.A.C.
    Secondary Unit Text: attd. 10th Bn.
    Age: 24
    Date of Death: 19/09/1944
    Service No: 108181
    Awards: VC
    Additional information: Son of Leslie Herbert and Sybil Queripel, of Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: 5. D. 8.
    Cemetery: ARNHEM OOSTERBEEK WAR CEMETERY
     
  3. MalcolmII

    MalcolmII Senior Member

    Hi Paul,
    Just a point, if the person you are looking for was in the Indian Army don't look for a UK nationality.
    eg:
    Name: MILLAR, ARTHUR DAVID CURTIS
    Initials: A D C
    Nationality: Indian
    Rank: Major
    Regiment: Indian Army
    Age: 38
    Date of Death: 17/12/1942
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Prot. Sec. (Officers'). Plot E. Coll. grave 4.
    Cemetery: MALTA (CAPUCCINI) NAVAL CEMETERY

    and he was from Crieff.
    For those curious among you he was killed in a plane crash on the way to Gibralter.

    Aye
    MalcolmII
     
  4. MoRpHiNe

    MoRpHiNe Junior Member

  5. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Thanks for the amendment.
     
  6. MoRpHiNe

    MoRpHiNe Junior Member

    No Problem :)
     
  7. kibeth

    kibeth Member

    Wow, that is a very useful tool. I managed to find some possible relatives, I will have to look and see if they match the family tree my aunt composed. Thankyou for the link.
     
  8. MoRpHiNe

    MoRpHiNe Junior Member

    Is that the UK only?
     
  9. Al London

    Al London Member

    Is that the UK only?

    It lists Commonwealth forces, i.e. UK, Australia, Canada, India, New Zealand, South Africa.
     
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Is that the UK only?
    Americans can be found on their own site.
    The American Battle Monuments Commission (ABMC) was established by Congress in 1923 to commemorate the service, achievements, and sacrifice of U.S. armed forces where they have served overseas since 1917, and within the U.S. when directed by public law.

    Click on here...American Battle Monuments Commission
     
  11. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    Americans can be found on their own site.

    Click on here...American Battle Monuments Commission



    ...only if the casualty is one of the small percentage whose grave is cared for by the ABMC or who was MiA (ie so their name is on an ABMC cared for memorial). Re-patriated known casualties aren't listed on here.

    Dave
     
  12. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Good point Dave.
    I pointed that out on GWF for WW1 but forgot to do same here.

    We only have the records of those casualties that are buried in our cemeteries or listed on the Walls of the Missing -- a total of 176,399 records. There were 405,399 American casualties in World War II.
     
  13. OpsMajor

    OpsMajor Junior Member

    Paul
    How does one ask for the detail (For example, the CWGC were able to provide me with a list of all the men who died on 6th June 1944.) you mention inyour first post?
    Sorry to be a novice in these things!
    Mike
     
  14. michael Gottschalk

    michael Gottschalk Junior Member

    I am coming back to my painful question" : is there anyone out there that was in Palestine in 1942 , when 2 Italian sailors from the sunken Sub SCIRE were buried in Haifa? AUG 10 1942. Names are

    CAPTAIN CHERSI

    PO DEL BEN

    Michael Gottschalk
    Israeli Navy Seals, retired
     
  15. GPRegt

    GPRegt Senior Member

    ...only if the casualty is one of the small percentage whose grave is cared for by the ABMC or who was MiA (ie so their name is on an ABMC cared for memorial). Re-patriated known casualties aren't listed on here. Dave

    It may be possible to find the graves of repatriated US personnel through Find A Grave.

    Steve W.
     
  16. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Paul
    How does one ask for the detail (For example, the CWGC were able to provide me with a list of all the men who died on 6th June 1944.) you mention inyour first post?
    Sorry to be a novice in these things!
    Mike

    Mike, sorry only just noticed this. Just drop CWGC an email via their site and they will produce you a report. CWGC is:

    :: CWGC ::
     
  17. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    Mike, sorry only just noticed this. Just drop CWGC an email via their site and they will produce you a report. CWGC is:

    :: CWGC ::

    The last two times I used the on-site contact form, it did not work. When I eventually made contact they could not trace my previous enquiries. Suggest you email
    casualty.enq@cwgc.org
    or use the phone number which is given (somewhere) on the website.
    They can take 20 days to reply. I obtained a faster response (couple of days) from the local Leamington office, but that was for a local enquiry.

    geoff
     
  18. Fred Wilson

    Fred Wilson Member

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