Rm look here http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/812-pearl-harbour/page-3 also OpanaPointer link http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/myths/ regards Clive
A bounty of good reading about Pearl Harbor here: Pearl Harbor threads at WW2F The "Consolidated Pearl Harbor Mythology" thread is especially enlightening. The name of the harbor is even spelled correctly.
Thanks for the enlightening links! I listened to a couple of podcasts on this recently @ http://historyofjapan.libsyn.com/ Where there's a nice series on the History of Japan. It seems very clear from your links that Japan didn't actually try to announce a full declaration of war "first" against the US - so it's odd that there seems to be this pervading sense of the persistence of this "myth" is there perhaps something culturaly involved? i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyokuon-h%C5%8Ds%C5%8D and oft subsequently quoted: "the war situation has developed not necessarily to Japan's advantage". I read the text and he didn't seem to actually declare peace but instead "We have resolved to pave the way for a grand peace" - I have heard that during business with the Japanese - some westerners were advised not necessarily to expect always a yes or no answer, and that merely to be polite it is quite common for Japanese culturally to say "maybe" when they actually mean "no". I can only think of the tower of Babel and the confusion of tongues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel#Themes Whether this was deliberate or not I'm not sure. Scholastic history is sometimes taught in simple or even nationalistic terms, and it might seem culturally apt to an audience in Japan to see things in a Japanese term. On the other hand one would hope that they would also learn that there were two sides there All the best, and many thanks for all your great work on your webpages, I'll try to stick to habor in future and ignore that squiggly red line (!) Rm. Sat, 6 September 2014 Episode 67 - An Unnatural Intimacy, Part 5 This week, we take the final plunge to Pearl Harbor. Backed into a corner by foolish decision-making and serious misreadings of their situation, the leaders of Japan will scramble at the last minute to avoid war, but refuse to make any serious concessions to do so. In the end, war will happen not because anyone really wants it but because no one wants to avoid it badly enough. Sat, 6 December 2014 Episode 80 - The Great Gamble This week -- and if you're getting this on release day, 72 years and 364 days later -- we're going to discuss the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor as well as its architect, the iconoclastic Japanese admiral Yamamoto Isoroku. Who was this man who came up with a bold plan to disable the entire US Navy in one shot? What was he thinking when he put this plan together? And why, in the end, did he have no prospect of victory?
Watched it again yesterday. One of the greats. Just noticed a big booboo. Spot the mistake. (Flag is correct 48 star version)
Correct Nevada class superimposed turrets were still twins. Superimposed triples didn't begin until the Pennsylvania class. Prop makers did such a good job otherwise. Surprised they missed this. EDIT: Meant to say Superfiring.
