Today 87 years ago, it all started

Discussion in 'The Third Reich' started by Lindele, Mar 5, 2020.

  1. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    concerning prussian militarism as one decisive factor for the development of "Germany" it started IMHO assumedly here:
    The Miracle of Brandenburg!

    Most luckily for the entire civilized world there was no comparable iterance 12 April 1945
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  2. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    And this had it´s roots in the "Preussenschlag" 1932:
    GHDI - Image
  3. chipm

    chipm Well-Known Member

    Well..... in 1907, if only The Fine Arts Of Vienna had accepted young Adolf...... :)
  4. TriciaF

    TriciaF Junior Member

    On the theme of Nationalism -
    "Rule Britannia" from 1740. Could we have gone down the same road as Germany?
    In the 1930s there were many supporters of Hitler et al in England (don't know about the rest of the UK).
  5. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Tricia you are correct. Great Britain had many Hitler admirers and research certainly uncovers them. However on a trip to the Obersalzburg there were detailed accounts of the British influential types paying homage to Hitler at his Berghof. He always greeted his famous guests at the foot of the stone steps leading to his lair.....British royalty and a former British Prime Minister among those who travelled to Berchtesgaden to meet him and who gave him a favourable review.
  6. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    The earliest such movements in Britain date from the 20s and were originally inspired by Italy and Mussolini not Germany and Hitler. For example the Loyalist League founded by Brig Gen Prescott-Decie which seems to have morphed into the National Fascisti. They tended to be very factional and splinter at the slightest excuse. Authors like P G Woodhouse took delight in poking fun at them hence his character Roderick Spode leader of the Black Shorts (all the shirt colours were taken). Never posed much of a real threat although could create riots and other trouble on the street. Mosely's Black Shirts the largest but already schisming after Munich and the Ribbentrop - Molotov pact knocked away their anti communist rationale and they faded away with the declaration of war.
    Ribbentrop greatly overestimated the amount of support amongst the British upper classes - his generous hospitality being more attractive than his politics. Like the ex Kaiser many of them considered Hitler a frightful little oik

    See for example Ian Thomas, The British Empire Union and the National Citizens’ Union,
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