thomas stanley warwick 1427378 arnhem

england phil.thanks for information about stan.i know leslie larkin is buried in oosterbrook cemetery and stans name is on the roll of honor not sure if its groesbook cemetery or oosterbrook.what does it mean a composite?and what isbreesse force? i am hoping to find out more from another family member when i get in touch with them,but any more information would be great,thanks again regards nadine

 

just foound out he is on the roll of honor in groesbeek,and a unknown grave in the canadian section

 

Nadine

His name appears on the Groesbeek Memorial along with all the other soldiers who died in the fighting in Belgium/Holland after August 1944 and who have no known grave.

From the CWGC web site:

Most of those buried in GROESBEEK CANADIAN WAR CEMETERY were Canadians, many of whom died in the Battle of the Rhineland, when the 2nd and 3rd Canadian Infantry Divisions and the 4th Canadian Armoured Division took part in the drive southwards from Nijmegen to clear the territory between the Maas and the Rhine in February and March 1945. Others buried here died earlier or later in the southern part of the Netherlands and in the Rhineland.

The cemetery contains 2,610 Commonwealth burials of the Second World War, and nine war graves of other nationalities.

Within the cemetery stands the GROESBEEK MEMORIAL, which commemorates by name more than 1,000 members of the Commonwealth land forces who died during the campaign in north-west Europe between the time of crossing the Seine at the end of August 1944 and the end of the war in Europe, and whose graves are not known.

John

 

Entrace to Groesbeek

http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=788&pictureid=5172


Link for CWGC:-

CWGC - Cemetery Details

 

hi john,thanks for your information.why would stan be on the roll of honour in a canadian cemetrey ?i thought it would have been in oosterbrook as he supposedly died there.how far are the cemeterys apart thanks nadine

 

Hi Nadine,

It's "Oosterbeek" and the distance to Groesbeek is 35 Kilometers. There is not such a memorial in Oosterbeek, the names of the missing are on the
panels in Groesbeek. See John's post.


Ron

 

......what isbreesse force?........

Hi Nadine,

This link may help.

All the best............

Major Charles Breese

 

hi paul,thanks you have been really helpful regards nadine

 

hi paul,thanks you have been really helpful regards nadine

You're welcome Nadine.........

 

Hi Nadine,

Yes both John & Ron are right Groesbeek Memorial is in the grounds of The Canadain War Cemetery... Did you get the photo of his name I posted ???

 

tomtas.thanks i got the photo of stans name on thr roll of honour.i have been in contact with family of stans,we dont really speak but they had been to groesbook cemetery some years ago,in have spoken to them but they dont really know any more than i know.i have found out more on this site,we are meeting up and they are going to tell me what they know,and anything else they might have from there visit,so i will let you know how i get on when i see them.but any more info from anyone will still be appreiciated,thanks again for all your help, regards nadine

 

I note that with issue 63 of the SFAM newsletter the ministory was written by Tom Henney and was called 'Driver of a Morris Commerical C8/AT Mk III'......could be useful for background info on the towing vehicles......

 

Then also number 17 The history of the 17-pounder guns in Hartenstein Park.....

 

airborne,thanks for post,can you tell me what the sfam newsletter is please and where would i get it from.i got some information about a liutenant j.t lewis who was on a hamilcars with D troop based at heckington and helpringham they were with P troop at tarrant rushton they flew 30 horsas from manston and blakehill farm,and P troop in 8 hamilcars from tarrant rushton,so it seems that stan was with leslie larkin when both troops flew to arnhem.so i was wandering would there be records of the names of the troops in each glider /plane thanks regards nadine

 

SFAM = Society of Fiends of the Airborne Museum.....I feel I can get copies of these for you...please pm me.....

Wth regard to your question about lists of who was in each gilder...this has been covered on this post somewhere before IIRC..but my opinion is that in general lists of who was in each glider are no longer around..although a few do exist but you would be very lucky to find what you are looking for I feel.....

 

i have found out from other site than stan qualified as a military parachutist after going on course 110 in april 1944,and it also states stan died while operating a gun near the hartenstein hotel.so would stan have parachuted out of plane? regards nadine

 

i have found out from other site than stan qualified as a military parachutist after going on course 110 in april 1944,and it also states stan died while operating a gun near the hartenstein hotel.so would stan have parachuted out of plane? regards nadine

I would have thought that he would given he was qualified to Nadine. But if he was still part of D troop, they were carried over in the gliders so it's a bit confusing. But others will know better than me.

Good luck. Hope somebody has the answer.

 

Just a comment....it was not possible in 1944 to drop the anti-tank guns by parachute - hence the use of gliders...but it is entirely possible for men from 'airlanding' units to go on a parachute course.....for example men from the surgical teams of 181AFA RAMC went to Ringway in 1944 in case there were a number of parachute operations and not enough parachute FST's to go around.....these men wore the parachute 'light bulb' rather than the wings you would probably think they would have...there is a good photo of Captain Griffin of 181 wearing his light bulb on page 142 of RB+RC's..perhaps someone can scan in and post....????

 

AM

Sorry to be pedantic but it was possible to drop the 6 pdr anti tank gun by parachute in 1944 - but as far as I'm aware it was not done operationally.

John

 

But not the 17 pounder which are the guns I feel we are talking about in D and P Troops.....I hope!