Thirty Four - The Story of Albert Goering

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  1. GPRegt

    GPRegt Senior Member

    Anyone read this?

    Steve W.
     
  2. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Steve,

    I have not read that book, just a German book on the man called "Görings Reich" which I found most interesting.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  3. beeza

    beeza Senior Member

    There was a review of that book in the local paper last weekend, seems like it could
    be a good read for people interested in that aspect of being Hermann's brother. It
    appears that on many an occasion Hermann bailed him out for his anti-Nazi stance.
    David
     
  4. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    The Good Goering


    Gavin Esler investigates the story of Hermann Göring's lesser known brother Albert, who claimed he saved the lives of those threatened by Nazi persecution.

    "He was always the antithesis of myself. He was not politically or militarily motivated; I was. He was melancholic and pessimistic, and I am an optimist. But he's not a bad fellow, Albert."

    Hermann Göring was the most prominent Nazi to face prosecution at the Nuremberg Trials. He had been Hitler's successor and the second most powerful man in the Third Reich. Yet there was another Göring held by the Allies after the war, who in contrast was a complete mystery to his interrogators - Albert Göring, Hermann's younger brother.

    Albert made some extraordinary claims. He said he had always been opposed to his brother's Nazi Party and, to the utter astonishment of his interrogators, stated he had saved the lives of countless people threatened by the regime, including Jews, sometimes with the help of Hermann himself.

    Could it really be that Albert was the "Good Göring" he painted, or was he just another Nazi liar trying to evade judgement at Nuremberg?

    Gavin Esler re-examines Albert's story to find out. Following the paper trail of historical documents which remain about him and through witness testimony, Gavin pieces together the life of this all-but forgotten Göring, and discovers more about the complex relationship he had with his brother Hermann.

    Gavin travels to Germany where Albert Göring remains unknown to this day. He discovers Albert's story does not sit easily within the history of the period, challenging our sometimes simplistic definitions of good and evil.

    A Kati Whitaker production for BBC Radio 4.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06ycwr


    And there is a link to scumonline also
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3413515/How-brother-Hitler-s-evil-Luftwaffe-chief-SAVED-Jews-Dachau-death-camp.html
     
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  5. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    I enjoyed the BBC documentary and would recommend it as being a thoughtful commentary on some of the known facts.

    But I'm not sure if your link Geoff: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06ycwr
    Works (but perhaps it's just me? most probably)

    I just seemed to get:

    Sorry, that page was not found
    Please check the address and try again

    For me this seemed to work there:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06ycwr4

    So your "4" might seem to have dropped off? Or else I just seem to need it perhaps.

    Certainly identical twins can be quite alike, both in appearance and behaviours I guess, but there is nothing to substantiate siblings or half siblings (as this documentary seems at one time to suggest) having to more than partly physically resemble one another I would contend. A lot of how you are brought up and those you associate with both through choice and through chance tend to contribute more towards that, and Albert seems to have had a godfather / surrogate father that helped towards that.

    Sibling antithesis is as old as history, Romulus and Remus et etc.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibling_rivalry

    And brother, sisters etc. can be as different as chalk and cheese.

    Herman as a presumably firm believer in the warped Nazi ideological beliefs would have thought that blood will out, J.K.Rowling Deatheaters etc. So saw his little brother as naïve but not impossible to re-educate.

    Whereas his brother Albert seemed to have been able to see the Nazi’s for what they actually were, and without blinkers, a lesson for all there perhaps.

    How could anyone these days blame anyone for the crimes of their relatives, or similarly for what surname they happened to have (unjustifiably so in the case of Albert if the rumours of his actual parentage are to be believed).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_G%C3%B6ring

    Wiki says “extremely unlikely” as regards Albert actually being Herman’s half-brother, rather than his full brother – despite some physical appearance to the contrary though.

    It might have been quite nice for them on the BBC documentary to have talked about the other Goerings a bit more (time though being an issue I guess) and what they all got up to during the war. Saying Albert was the “good Goering” else wise seems to cast a bit of a warranted/unwarranted ? aspersion there. I suspect that there were a few other Goerings also in the general German population that might wonder now what they might mean.

    Do we get the bad “Churchill” next? Had he a half-brother up in the attic we as yet know little about? I think there was once some focus though on his daughter there. Tabloid stuff. I’ve already seen a few docs and films about the one or two of the “bad” Kennedy’s though.

    Perhaps in some centuries, or a millennia or so, someone called Hitler will eventually pop up to redeem his name? or the name of Shicklegruber perhaps?

    I was actually trying to think if there are some really good “Adolf’s” anyone knows out there? And if so why on earth / who on earth gave them the name.

    But wiki has quite a long list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf

    It’s funny how when you look down alphabetically how insignificant Adolf Hitler looks there. Classic! Perhaps he should have a page on the Infamous Adolf’s wiki. But I think this is just a list of those with the given “Adolf” name.

    Can’t for the life of me though think what happened here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_H%C3%BCtter

    Wonder what on earth his school registration, daily, sounded like. Still nice that he chose to be known as Adi, rather than Adolf. Commentating on his football matches in Austria must have been a bit of a test / nightmare I guess..

    All the best,

    Rm.
     
  6. Over Here

    Over Here Junior Member

    After looking at the photos I'll believe he wasn't Goring's half brother when I see the passenger lists showing his mother was in Haiti, not living with her lover in his castle.

    But then are stories about Adolph's grandmother and her employer.
     

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