They join, they enquire and then immediately disappear. Why ?

Discussion in 'Network Information, Suggestions and Feedback' started by Ron Goldstein, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. Victoria nicole

    Victoria nicole Junior Member

    I have just joined up. I hope i dont let u all down by disappearing. I will say, i have never bothered with internet etc all these years and am just finding out what i've been missing out on. I stumbled onto this site while i was looking into my dad's history. He was a Red Beret in the 6th. I am hoping i can work out all this stuff and then i can talk 2 u all.
     
  2. DoreenC

    DoreenC Member

    I guess I'm one of the people who posted then disappeared. I came here for information about my father's service, and got more than I ever dreamed I would for which I'm ever so grateful.

    Don't sell yourself short in thinking that, to quote "you have nothing to contribute".


    I would be one of those people too. I feel I don't have the knowledge to really contribute to most discussions concerning facts and events, although I've read a great many of them and have learned a lot.
     
  3. REK

    REK Senior Member

    I would be one of those people too. I feel I don't have the knowledge to really contribute to most discussions concerning facts and events, although I've read a great many of them and have learned a lot.

    ... and inexperienced posters do sometimes get their heads bitten off on this forum. We may not like to admit it, but they do.
     
  4. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Victoria,

    Hello and welcome to the forum.

    There are quite a few Airborne oriented members who would be most grateful if you could provide any information on your fathers service.

    In particular any photos whilst serving.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  5. marktwain

    marktwain Member

    ... and inexperienced posters do sometimes get their heads bitten off on this forum. We may not like to admit it, but they do.
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    We also get some totally odd attacks- the current poster who is claiming that there were NO RN carriers in the Mediterrean in 1941 appears to have an objection to a new member starting a thread...;)
     
  6. DoreenC

    DoreenC Member

    inexperienced posters do sometimes get their heads bitten off on this forum.

    No one who is polite, says "please" and "Thank you" and doesn't get angry, rude and defensive when they get information they don't like should get anything bitten off.:)
     
  7. rossa150c

    rossa150c Junior Member

    I am guilty of the aforementioned, I sought information and I got great help from a member of this forum. I went off and started to put pieces of the story together, I tend to only get time to spend online when the winter days come. I also have two children who seem to always want to use the computer when I need to?? I also have a wife who what's to use it, I will hold may hands up and say I have maybe not contributed in terms of photos etc, but I intend to do that when I get the whole story correct. Getting the whole story has led me all over the world I've been to Canada, I've chatted to people in the USA, I'm going to England at the end of the month so I can see and confirm as best I can what find. I also find that the forum works well on windows based pcs and not so Apple device friendly... Smart phone... iPad etc. But it's improved since the last time I used it. I have paid for the research services of folk, but not knowing or having met people I have asked a lot of questions... Purely to protect myself and I'm not made of money so at times I ask for price upfront where possible. I guess i treated it like it's like a rogue builder who keeps adding on costs as the time goes on...my experience has been always positive!! Anyway if people feel I have offended annoyed upset or mislead the hard working folk on this forum I would like to apologise...for not contributing to this as much as I'd like, I intend to put the information I have gained up for those interested to read. Again thanks for the hardwork. It is most appreciated.
    Rossa
     
  8. REK

    REK Senior Member

    I am guilty of the aforementioned, I sought information and I got great help from a member of this forum. I went off and started to put pieces of the story together, I tend to only get time to spend online when the winter days come. I also have two children who seem to always want to use the computer when I need to?? I also have a wife who what's to use it, I will hold may hands up and say I have maybe not contributed in terms of photos etc, but I intend to do that when I get the whole story correct. Getting the whole story has led me all over the world I've been to Canada, I've chatted to people in the USA, I'm going to England at the end of the month so I can see and confirm as best I can what find. I also find that the forum works well on windows based pcs and not so Apple device friendly... Smart phone... iPad etc. But it's improved since the last time I used it. I have paid for the research services of folk, but not knowing or having met people I have asked a lot of questions... Purely to protect myself and I'm not made of money so at times I ask for price upfront where possible. I guess i treated it like it's like a rogue builder who keeps adding on costs as the time goes on...my experience has been always positive!! Anyway if people feel I have offended annoyed upset or mislead the hard working folk on this forum I would like to apologise...for not contributing to this as much as I'd like, I intend to put the information I have gained up for those interested to read. Again thanks for the hardwork. It is most appreciated.
    Rossa

    But did you thank that member for their help? That's all we're concerned about here.
     
  9. rossa150c

    rossa150c Junior Member

    Yes I most certainly did thank him and paid him also. I also have to say from reading the start of this thread the member asked reasons why people don't get back.... Well from my own experience it's several reasons, some I have shared, and everyone has there own different reasons I'm sure...
     
  10. REK

    REK Senior Member

    Yes I most certainly did thank him and paid him also.

    In that case there's certainly no need for you to describe yourself as being guilty of anything at all.

    There have been people on this forum who've received help and haven't even bothered to thank the person who helped them, which I think is what really prompted this thread.

    I don't believe any member owes the rest of us an apology or explanation for not posting more on the site than they do. It's obvious that some of us have more time and resources (as well as other commitments, interests etc) than others.
     
  11. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I'm just bumping these two posts from a while back up, as I find this thread gets a bit convoluted, and people sometimes apparently seem a tad put upon by it.
    Personally I'm not really bothered by it. The internet is an impersonal medium and many people haven't quite got their head round how to behave on the Net; that is evident everywhere. Generally this forum is exceptional in the way its members interact in a friendly way.

    If we've helped someone out and they never say thank you publicly, so what? Personally I don't answer anything in the expectation of praise or thanks, but it's always nice when we get it.

    I'm sure as more and more WW2 records are released this will only become more common; it has certainly gone that way with WW1.

    If someone doesn't say thanks; ah well, at least they might have triggered another little topic for the rest of us to rattle on about, or the answers helpfully given will be yet another tiny piece added to the WW2 Internet jigsaw.

    I completely agree with Paul, and still feel the same as I did in My post.
    I'd much rather see the queries, answers & details piling up than anyone feeling put off, or at all nervous that they're obliged to conform to some formal pattern.

    My personal main aim for this place is that the story of WW2 gets told & discussed - that each little query sits on the web to be picked up or mulled over by anyone looking for what happened in those years. I love it when a short long-abandoned thread proves of worth to some passing family member, researcher, or just someone passing the time on Google.
    Post lots or little (or not at all) - fine by me, as even the smallest bit of info can connect to larger aims (and even tempt lurkers into the open).

    Obviously politeness is nice, and I damned well intend to have a bit of fun with the place by rattling on here and there off the main theme, but the primary point for me is 'nuggets' of WW2-related information, so I really try not to get too hung up over good or bad 'etiquette'.

    It's only the Internet, after all.
    Funny old place, in which I'm quite sanguine to take some of the rough, in order to get to the nice smooth stuff.
    Even the questioner who doesn't say thanks has often given a little pleasure to the answerer who's scanned their books, named a tank or two, and maybe even flashed a bit of knowledge on a subject, to an audience which is actually quite interested.

    ~A
    Idi Admin.
     
  12. sherlock

    sherlock Member

    Sadly in today's society common courtesy isn't all that common. How much does it take to thank someone for their effort, especially when it benefits you? Too much for some people apparently. I always feel abit of personal satisfaction when I help someone, but it feels even better when my actions are acknowledged.
     
  13. DoreenC

    DoreenC Member

    It's only the Internet, after all.


    Yes, and it's easy to be rude anonymously and, IMHO, there's no excuse at all. People would never behave this way with someone - face to face - who spent time collecting materials to help them. They would never grab what was offered and walk away without a word of appreciation (maybe for fear of getting a kick in the butt!)

    Maybe some people were raised by wolves and know no better, but for everyone else "Thanks so much" takes about 3 seconds to type and costs nothing.
    For myself, I figure if I have time to type out questions and read the replies I certainly have time to express appreciation to the people getting me answers just out of the kindness of their hearts.

    Sorry to go on about this, but the lack of simple courtesies is really a pet peeve for me.
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  14. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball It's a way of life.

    I've helped folk in the past either by a book recommendation, document check or an ancestry look up. Sometimes they say thanks, sometimes they don't. The fact is I'm not really arsed either way. What's important is that what knowledge you impart is on the record so to speak and retrievable via Google for others who seek to know.

    Sorry for the bluntness but this all seems a little pointless. A bit like moaning about post counts or rep points etc.
     
  15. REK

    REK Senior Member

    Sometimes they say thanks, sometimes they don't. The fact is I'm not really arsed either way.

    Some of us obviously are more bothered about this than others, and I suspect it's just a reflection of the way we behave ourselves.

    I, for one, wouldn't dream of not thanking somebody who I knew had gone out of their way to help me, and consequently I find it astonishing that anyone would not do the same for me in return.

    On the other hand, if I was the kind of person who rarely bothered to thank anyone, I don't suppose it would trouble me much if people thanked me or not.
     
  16. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    To answer Ron's original question.

    I'm the one who answers the emails we get when someone clicks on the 'Contact Us' button.

    Some people have great difficulty understanding how this forum works.
    Some forget their User Name & password.
    Some cant work out how to post , then some that do can't find their posts again.
    Some contact us thinking they are memebsr of this forum & they are actually members of a completely different one that is nothing to do with us.
    Some even give an incorrect email with their query that when I do reply to them it gets returned as undeliverable.

    I think that about covers it.

    In saying that I still stick with what I said earlier in the thread.
    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/316372-post105.html
     
  17. teletypeman

    teletypeman Senior Member

    As a new guy I think it has alot to do with patience, or lack of it. Folks want instant answers. I am willing to wait, because on a Forum like this it takes awhile to figure out how things work and for the RIGHT person to see your thread/post. Then the answer will come. I also want to Thank everyone here that has responed/answered any of my threads/posts. I am very greatful for this Forum. I think it is wonderful. I get many chuckles from some of the Vets responses. Loved Sapper's banter about shooting the Piat. We owe Vets a great deal of respect and graditude. Folks who use this Forum owe much to the guys and gals who keep it running. Thanks people who keep this forum going! Thanks Vets for the job you did! Most of all Thanks to those who gave all to keep us free!
    Teletypeman

    P.S. I also agree that there are alot of rude and ungreatful people in this world.
     
  18. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Some of us obviously are more bothered about this than others, and I suspect it's just a reflection of the way we behave ourselves.

    An assumption, I feel, and maybe even an accusation. ;)

    I would regard myself as consistently traditionally polite in the real world (as likely to apologise to someone who bumps into me as any other Britischer), but the web is a different 'looser' environment, which moves in a different manner.
    If one gets hung-up about thanks etc., it can so easily be detrimental to the main reason for being on a subject-specific forum, and dominate what should be the primary theme.
    The more serious forum interactions are rarely solely between the questioner and the answerer, others read and absorb, the record gets added to, and as long as the information continues to flow, I'm on the whole happy to shrug and move on.


    Some people have great difficulty understanding how this forum works.
    Some forget their User Name & password.
    Some cant work out how to post , then some that do can't find their posts again.
    Some contact us thinking they are memebsr of this forum & they are actually members of a completely different one that is nothing to do with us.
    Some even give an incorrect email with their query that when I do reply to them it gets returned as undeliverable.
    What he said...
    (And adding: Some completely forget they posted a query. I know I have done on assorted one-shot questions on subject specific Forums from cars to Gaming.)

    (By the way, I'm intrigued at a mention above about accessing the forum having improved on certain mobile devices, because we haven't changed anything along those lines at all. I wonder if certain mobile browsers have just got better at displaying some stuff, or the machines themselves have subtly become more user-friendly.)
     
  19. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

    An assumption, I feel, and maybe even an accusation. ;)

    I would regard myself as consistently traditionally polite in the real world (as likely to apologise to someone who bumps into me as any other Britischer), but the web is a different 'looser' environment, which moves in a different manner.
    If one gets hung-up about thanks etc., it can so easily be detrimental to the main reason for being on a subject-specific forum, and dominate what should be the primary theme.
    The more serious forum interactions are rarely solely between the questioner and the answerer, others read and absorb, the record gets added to, and as long as the information continues to flow, I'm on the whole happy to shrug and move on.



    What he said...
    (And adding: Some completely forget they posted a query. I know I have done on assorted one-shot questions on subject specific Forums from cars to Gaming.)

    (By the way, I'm intrigued at a mention above about accessing the forum having improved on certain mobile devices, because we haven't changed anything along those lines at all. I wonder if certain mobile browsers have just got better at displaying some stuff, or the machines themselves have subtly become more user-friendly.)

    Mobile access is a pain in the ass. OK if you have no other options but the overall experience leaves something to be desired. For ww2 talk, some functions (sending a rep) don't operate properly.
    Maybe just my preference for the larger screen.
     
  20. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I almost forgot another reason a member maynot return.
    Even if the member subscribed to their thread they may not even get an email notification as it probably ended up in their spam/junk email folder.
     

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