They join, they enquire and then immediately disappear. Why ?

Discussion in 'Network Information, Suggestions and Feedback' started by Ron Goldstein, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I did exactly that back in October 2010 on another forum.
    It was when the French were on strike & the petrol stations were closed & there was a shortage of petrol.
    We were due to go to Normandy that day.
    I wanted to know if there was petrol available on the Autoroutes .
    I have never been back to that forum & am not even sure which one it was, not that fussed either.

    Oh we had a great trip to Normandy, as some of you will remember my photos.
    Not now viewable as I deleted my Photobucket account .

    Wasn't you made a Mod on that forum?
     
  2. peaceful

    peaceful Senior Member

    This forum entry is late because I care about my reputation. The comment raking me over the coals regarding the use of private VM was made jumping to conclusions without knowing anything of the details.

    peaceful

    p.s. I earned -16 demerit reputation points for my posting
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  4. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Peaceful

    I suggest you take a deep breath, stop worrying and carry on with matters that are actually WW2 related. If you can't do that, contact whoever sent you the original PMs which upset you so much, and of course the neg reps.

    I shan't be making any more replies to you about this, as I for one consider the matters raised previously between us on this thread, already closed via messaging. Frankly this is my last off topic contribution to this thread.
     
  5. peaceful

    peaceful Senior Member

    Hi Drew,

    I'm not worrying about my reputation points it in the least but thanks.

    I thought it was rather hilarious.

    peaceful
     
  6. peaceful

    peaceful Senior Member

    Diane,
    Sorry-what does shan't mean? Never heard that word used before.
    peaceful
     
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Sorry-what does shan't mean? Never heard that word used before.


    shan't = shall not
     
  8. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

    I shan't ask pardon, as some one else did, of the great shade of Shakespeare for betraying the secret of his ...

    Or as I call him Wills Shakespeare, just adds something!
     
  9. JJS

    JJS Senior Member

    Quite often, this is the case.
    I periodically get emails from embarrassed bods that forgot they ever visited asking me to pass on thanks to an individual.



    Been meaning to put something in the Rules, Welcome message, wherever, specifically stating that sharing info and making 'stuff' more accessible is a major raison d'ĂȘtre for this place (and hopefully any other historical/researchy forum).
    Got a war diary? Post it up.
    Compiled some useful lists or data? People love 'em.
    etc.

    I can understand why some writers/researchers might mantle little nuggets for a specific project, But most data needs sharing I reckon.
    There is a payback too, as the more you put out there, the more you tend to get back.


    I completely agree with the lists, that would be very useful if indexed and clear to new members on how to use. I just mention the ease of use because I know I found it a bit difficult to navigate when I first joined, but I know I have a problem with that sort of information overload, a bit like exam papers = Blank pages! Maybe there would be a few less irritations for the more generous members, who give their time and knowledge freely, if something immediately visible and easily used is there to deflect the ones who are just looking for those little snippets to add to their projects!

    These days the internet is full of sites making money out of people wanting information about their own families and I for one was very please to Google across this site. The help and advice given to me has been overwhelming and has amazed me. The interest shown and the efforts made on my behalf have been staggering after tripping and falling around the net for several months before getting to the particular relative that then gripped my every spare minute.

    Once I posted on this site the information rolled in, and from the little snowball sent gently skipping down the hill it very rapidly turned in to a thundering avalanche! I know I kept on thanking everyone, but it felt quite puny to be honest, it just wasn't enough! I have gained so much from these people who have enabled me to reintroduce a long and tragically lost member of our family that I never new. He is now firmly rooted in the minds of even some of the younger generation who I know will carry his story forward and have already started to pass it on to their children, who are in turn absorbing the information keenly and are hungry to learn more. For me, I could not have wished for more, except to reach the impossible dream of actually finding our lost boy.

    I have learned so much, and will continue to learn. But it's on a level I could never have hoped to reach without the help provided by the members of this site......... I actually found myself objecting to a the use of the term 'it may well just be a BRIDGE TOO FAR for us' used by a couple on one of those house hunting type things on the box! Immediately the thought 'well it's hardly Arnhem is it you !!!!!!!!!! flew through my head as I reached for the remote and turned it off. I feel it is a part of me now, not just a piece of information I am am aware of. And I, though unaware before this incident, do not easily tolerate the casual use of a term that should be treated with respect while understanding that men lost their lives for that Bridge Too Far.

    The people who have helped me to absorb my family history to such an extent have my utmost respect and gratitude and if I can ever do anything in return I will.

    One thing I have become more aware of over the last few years is just how selfish people are becoming around us in our day to day activities. Now this may just be part of the ageing process, I don't know, and any advice on that would be very welcome!

    Some of what goes on on this site is probably a part of that general, I need or want it therefore I will get it and to hang with the rest of you attitude. And though it is very unpleasant to witness, I hope it doesn't poison and inhibit the generous nature of our more knowledgeable members. If we allow that to creep in we will be joining the selfish brigade and then who will there be left to set the standards.

    Apologies if I appear to be ranting, but I feel quite strongly that what you all do on hear is an example of human nature at its best. And no amount of selfish, inconsiderate behaviour from those too young, downright unpleasant or maybe just too busy with work and families should change the way you work.

    JJS.:poppy:
     
  10. peaceful

    peaceful Senior Member

    Thanks Owen and Wills for your translation.
    peaceful
     
  11. peaceful

    peaceful Senior Member

    Hi Von Poop
    Hi von Poop

    I didn't think to look for archives that hold thousands of previous posts at first.
    There's a treasure trove of info that can be accessed to answer a lot of questions.
    My suggestion is to mention your archives it you see fit to.

    peaceful
     
  12. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Hi Von Poop
    Hi von Poop

    I didn't think to look for archives that hold thousands of previous posts at first.
    There's a treasure trove of info that can be accessed to answer a lot of questions.
    My suggestion is to mention your archives it you see fit to.

    peaceful
    What?
    Maybe put a note on the front page of the forum reading 'This is an Internet forum'.
    That ought to do it. ^_^
     
  13. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I didn't think to look for archives that hold thousands of previous posts at first.
    There's a treasure trove of info that can be accessed to answer a lot of questions.
    My suggestion is to mention your archives it you see fit to.


    At top right of screen is a button marked SEARCH.
    Click on that , you get a drop down menu, you have the choice of a quick search or an advanced search.
    May I ask , is this the first forum you've used ?
    Just wondered.
     
  14. PeterG

    PeterG Senior Member

    There's a treasure trove of info that can be accessed to answer a lot of questions.
    By Jove, you're right! :D
     
  15. peaceful

    peaceful Senior Member

    I've just had a casual look at the members list and was immediately struck at the high number of new forum members who join, make a research enquiry and then, having received, in some cases, substantial help from other members, simply disappear without a further posting.

    I am aware that this is quite common behaviour, indeed I recently had an earnest plea from someone who wished to contact, through me, a long lost RAF friend but before I could arrange the meeting the enquirer had done the disappearing trick leaving everyone slightly pxxxxxd off. but the question still remains, why do they do it ?

    Any thoughts on the matter ?

    Ron

    O.K.

    Let me be the one to let the cat out of the bag.

    Lets put an end to nit picking, squabbling, and making a hugh issue for arguments sake over what people's opinions and experiences are. The taking issue and causing strife over what Ron really said or what Ron really meant was most odd.

    Hate to break it to you but the reality is that people who are still here can only speculate and the only ones who can answer the question aren't here to do so are they?

    peaceful
    Chrissie
     
  16. peaceful

    peaceful Senior Member

    I am a new member - since a few days ago - and came across this old thread from 2010 about how many new members join, take away info and vanish. I am/was unaware of the protocol of the site or expectations of other members. I was surfing the internet for links regarding on my father's WW2 experience and after googling his name and 'POW' your site came up. The thread was from someone looking for him....Although I have not been able to make contact with this person, other members have been extremely helpful in putting me in touch with resources etc, so I am very grateful for the assistance. Is there anything else I am expected to do to be a 'responsible' citizen?

    Having said all that, here are some possible reasons for why people vanish:

    1. I have not found the site so easy to use - maybe this is a barrier
    2. not everyone checks with the site regularly - it would be good if any responses to a thread that we initiate (or possibly which we have participated in) could be automatically notified to our personal email addresses. That way people could stay engaged and re-enter the discussions. I have had the experience that someone is looking for my relative on this site, I have replied to them and they have not come back on. I do not have access to their email address so that is now a dead-end and they may never use the site
    3. As mentioned elsewhere - many people join to find about their relative and their interest in WW2 is secondary to that.
    4. You may have a link that people can make a donation to the maintenance of the site - maybe there is one? some of the once-off users who are assisted may be prepared make a small voluntary donation. That way they may vanish but at least leave a financial footprint.

    Meanwhile - just thanking you all for your assistance thus far. I hope to post up my father's account of his experience some time in the future, but not ready yet.

    Hi Judy and welcome! Thank you for expressing your views.

    Firstly, how amazing to discover your dad's name on the internet and known by this forum already. Sorry he went through the experience of being a POW. I look forward to your coming story about him so that we can all honour him.

    Being fairly new myself, I found this site is so loaded with info. I haven't figured everything out. I can be a computer idiot sometimes and my little grey cells are getting greyer and littlier by the day. It's getting clearer quicker than I thought it would.

    You have a valid point on pt 2.

    I asked von Poop about a donation too, but no, not done here.
    It shows the dedication of the folks who put the work in because I'm sure there are out of pocket expenses.

    Hope you enjoy your experience here.
    Best wishes

    peaceful
    Chrissie
     
  17. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    2. not everyone checks with the site regularly - it would be good if any responses to a thread that we initiate (or possibly which we have participated in) could be automatically notified to our personal email addresses. That way people could stay engaged and re-enter the discussions. I have had the experience that someone is looking for my relative on this site, I have replied to them and they have not come back on. I do not have access to their email address so that is now a dead-end and they may never use the site

    Ask one of us Mods or Admin & we will contact that member for you asking them to get in touch with you.
    We can ask but their email address maybe out of date or they may not wish to correspond.
    We can but ask...
     
  18. peaceful

    peaceful Senior Member

    Regarding Judy's point 2 for her needs

    Ahhh.... I see what you mean Owen.

    I'm not a techie but something along the lines of an option box available to a poster to click on that would trigger an alert to one's personal page if someone has answered them on forum. Easy to say for the person not doing the work.

    Is this complicated?

    Then can you lasso the moon for me please?

    peaceful
    Chrisie
     
  19. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    As far as I'm aware that option is already available to members.
    They need to select that option by going to their USER CP & editing their profile & options in there.
    I've never used it so I never bothered looking into it.
     
  20. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Go into "User Control Panel"
    Under "Settings & Options" Choose "Edit Options"

    Bout half way down you will see this option

    Default Thread Subscription Mode

    and it states as follows: When you post a new thread, or reply to a topic, you can choose to automatically add that thread to your list of subscribed threads, with the option to receive email notification of new replies to that thread.

    The default option is not to notify. you can change it to have a notification sent to you when a new post is posted on any thread you have participated in.

    This is a standard feature of all vbulletin forums, not just of WW2 talk as far as I know.
     

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