Theirs Is The Glory

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  1. Paul Pariso

    Paul Pariso Very Senior Member

    Chaplain R. Dijker was asked by Chaplain McGowan to assist at the
    Tafelberg. His story, told by himself is in the book "Zes Dorpen in Oorlog en Verzet" wich is unfortunately in Dutch only. It translates as "Six Villages in War and Resistance".
    He was a Roman Catholic Chaplain from the Bernulphus Church in Oosterbeek so actually
    an assistent of Pastor Bruggeman.
    In the book is also the dead announcement of Reverend Benson who died of Wounds
    the 27th Sept. in St. Elisabeth Hospital. Benson has been in the Tafelberg too.

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=279&pictureid=2459

    Ron...

    Is this the book Ron??
     

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  2. ronald

    ronald Senior Member

    Yes, thats the one Paul.

    Ron...
     
  3. Lofty1

    Lofty1 Senior Member

    In the movie there is a scene filmed in the Tafelberg which shows a Priest giving a service (see stills from the film below). Can anyone please tell me the name of the Priest? A friend of mine has suggested Pastoor Bruggeman and for some reason this rings a bell with me but I can't be sure.
    Many thanks :).......
    Hi paul I am sure I have a video, of Mr Ter Horst and Father Dijker talking about the battle and thier roles, filmed in the Tafelburg with the famous staires in the background I will try and look for it regards lofty
     
  4. Ramon

    Ramon Senior Member

    Thanks a lot fellas, I knew I could count on you all!! :D. I've got a couple of copies of the film but they are on DVD and don't have the booklet metioned.
    I believe that this came with the VHS Video version of the movie when it was first released way back when!!

    Cheers............

    Hi Paul,

    I have the booklet and will make a copy of it when I have time. You know I don't have the time on the moment but in a few weeks i have plenty of time.:(
     
  5. Paul Pariso

    Paul Pariso Very Senior Member

    Hi Paul,

    I have the booklet and will make a copy of it when I have time. You know I don't have the time on the moment but in a few weeks i have plenty of time.:(

    Thanks a lot Ramon, that's very good of you. I hope things are working out for you a bit better now.
    Best regards.........:)
     
  6. At Home Dad (Returning)

    At Home Dad (Returning) Well-Known Member

    "Re-enactment of World War 2 Battle of Arnhem. Later lavishly remade as A Bridge Too Far." Part of Operation Market Garden, the Battle of Arnhem was a failed attempt to capture the a bridge in the city of Arnhem in Holland. This remarkable docu-drama was shot 1 year after the battle, with the actual soldiers and civillians re-creating their experiences, and it features captured German armor.

    Theirs is the Glory (1946) : Gaumont British Picture Corporation : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
     
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  7. ww2ni

    ww2ni Senior Member

    Cracking Video!

    Buy the DVD which incorporates extra details about the production of the film.
     
  8. At Home Dad (Returning)

    At Home Dad (Returning) Well-Known Member

    it is bloody good! Hopefully the dvd has
    a better soundtrack than this copy


    Especially enjoyed the scenes memorable from
    A Bridge Too Far (flamethrower attack on the
    pillbox etc).

    Seeing as it was the actual chaps involved, I wondered (in a
    touchy feely 21st century way) just how they felt while filming
    it, obviously with a lot of missing pals.

    Favourite scene: making a brew in someones living
    room and calmly having a tea break in the middle of
    a German attack :D
     
  9. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Brilliant AHD - thanks for posting.
    I had heard about the film but never seen it until today. I watched it all the way through and will look out for the DVD.
    Don't suppose anyone won an oscar for the acting, but that's hardly surprising as they were Arnhem vets.
    Made me realise how good some of Attenborough's scenes were, some of the shots from inside the plane on the first drop were almost identical in ABTF.
     
  10. Paul Pariso

    Paul Pariso Very Senior Member

    The DVD can usually be sourced through Amazon or Ebay. If anyone is interested there is a website dedicated to the film's Director, Brian Desmond Hurst and there's lots more info about the film and its making etc. The link is below.

    All the best...............:)

    Home
     
  11. wowtank

    wowtank Very Senior Member

    My Nan and grandfather were invited to the film's premiere, I think my mum might have the invite and ticket hidden away.
     
  12. Paul Pariso

    Paul Pariso Very Senior Member

    My Nan and grandfather were invited to the film's premiere, I think my mum might have the invite and ticket hidden away.

    A neighbour of mine (who has now sadly passed away) was in the 2nd Battalion the Parachute Regiment during WW2 and was invited to the premiere at his local cinema. His wife very kindly allowed me to scan some of his old pictures etc and amongst them was the invite he received.

    All the best..........:)
     

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  13. wowtank

    wowtank Very Senior Member

    I think I remember when my Nan showed me the ticket (25 years ago when I was child) She said that the Headmaster from her little brothers school in assembly, had ask if any body knew of any body that had been paratroopers at Arnhem. The headmaster said there was a film to be released about the battle and they wanted as many paratroopers to go as possible. I think there was a letter like the one your neighbour had and a ticket with the lettering in gold.
     
  14. At Home Dad (Returning)

    At Home Dad (Returning) Well-Known Member

    some interesting snippets from the wiki page -

    It was the biggest grossing war movie for a decade

    Some commentators have said that the film is remarkable in that it employed surviving German armor from the war; very few if any productions can make that claim. Notable examples: Two Panthers (at least one of which was fully mobile) an operable Tiger, and the wreck of a Tiger II remaining in place from the actual battle.

    With no credits appearing before or after the film little is known about the 200 veteran actors we see in the film. "Just ordinary men" as the narrator says at the beginning.


    Wouldn't it be great if those chaps could, in fact, be ID'd!
     
  15. ww2ni

    ww2ni Senior Member

    There were tickets to the premiere which were made from the aluminium of british gliders! Some of the DVD's have a copy included.

    More details can be found in the book "Brotherhood of the Cauldron" by David Truesdale.
     
  16. Paul Pariso

    Paul Pariso Very Senior Member

    some interesting snippets from the wiki page -

    It was the biggest grossing war movie for a decade

    Some commentators have said that the film is remarkable in that it employed surviving German armor from the war; very few if any productions can make that claim. Notable examples: Two Panthers (at least one of which was fully mobile) an operable Tiger, and the wreck of a Tiger II remaining in place from the actual battle.

    With no credits appearing before or after the film little is known about the 200 veteran actors we see in the film. "Just ordinary men" as the narrator says at the beginning.


    Wouldn't it be great if those chaps could, in fact, be ID'd!

    Some of the "main" players in the film are well known figures from the 1st Airborne. People such as Major Freddie Gough, CO of the Recce Squadron, Lt. Hugh Ashmore, CO of No.3 Platoon, 21st Ind Coy and of course Major 'Dickie' Lonsdale, 2ic of the 11th Battalion who gave the speech in the church. Another chap who features quite prominently was Private Peter Holt of No.2 Platoon, 21st Ind Coy.
    Apparently the movie people were so impressed with Holt that he was offered a career in films but he declined.
    Lt. Ashmore on the other hand, who wanted to be a professional actor, (he had done some acting before the war), was so nervous in front of the camera, that the scene where he gives the briefing at the start of the film took ages to complete because he kept fluffing his lines!

    Just as an aside, another member of 1st Airborne who fought at Arnhem and who did go on to make a successful career as an actor was Capt Colin Douglas of the 1st Battalion Border Regiment. He appeared in numerous TV shows from the 60's right up to his death in 1991.

    Colin Douglas - IMDb

    All the best............
     

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  17. Paul Pariso

    Paul Pariso Very Senior Member

    There were tickets to the premiere which were made from the aluminium of british gliders! Some of the DVD's have a copy included.

    More details can be found in the book "Brotherhood of the Cauldron" by David Truesdale.

    These were given out to the "VIP's" at the premieres and they sometimes crop up on ebay but usually fetch a high price! Apparently there were two slightly different versions with one having the names of the Premiere locations on it and the other not.
    The copy you mention was produced to accompany the commemorative DVD which was released in 2006 to mark the 60th Anniversary of the film's release. I'm lucky enough to have examples of both the originals and one of the copies.

    All the best....:)
     

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  18. At Home Dad (Returning)

    At Home Dad (Returning) Well-Known Member

    That's what I mean, Paul, it's mainly the Officers (as usual!)
    who are known - whereas some of those other non speaking
    roles but who were used as facial close ups with those fine
    examples of British faces.

    But I can see (from the brilliant ticket collection!!) that you are,
    as you say, Arnhem Barmy!!

    facinating stuff all round
     
  19. Paul Pariso

    Paul Pariso Very Senior Member

    That's what I mean, Paul, it's mainly the Officers (as usual!)
    who are known - whereas some of those other non speaking
    roles but who were used as facial close ups with those fine
    examples of British faces.

    But I can see (from the brilliant ticket collection!!) that you are,
    as you say, Arnhem Barmy!!

    facinating stuff all round

    Cheers mate! :lol:........
     
  20. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    Hi All

    At Home Dad, Pauls not Arnhem Barmy He's just MAD I say PMSL :lol::po_O

    Cheers
    Tom
     

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