saving jesica,sorry private ryan.where speilberg has a conversation with himself about our monty being overrated.yours very sincerely.lee
I have to own up and say that I loved 'Saving Private Ryan'. My favourite part was when General Marshall read out the letter by Abe Lincoln.
saving jesica,sorry private ryan.where speilberg has a conversation with himself about our monty being overrated.yours very sincerely.lee Was that in the actual movie or in the extra features?
Worst WW2 Film: Escape to Victory, no redeeming features whatsoever. Best War Film seen recently: 9th Company (Soviet conscripts in Afghanistan- check out the making of in the DVD, they are all nutters!)
Worst WW2 Film: Escape to Victory, no redeeming features whatsoever. That's the gratuitous pow footballing one isn't it? Ian Mcshane, Pele, Michael Caine & assorted other footballers who I would have no clue as to their identities?? Firmly agree, Utter guff.
haven't watched Pearl harbour as a matter of principal. Meant to do the same with U571 - failed: What a total load of rubbish. Solo German destroyers in N Atlantic, sinking a submarine with a torpedo in the 1940s when both in silent mode - Please Worst series - Hogans Hearoes (at least it tried to be a comedy)
For me it as to be U571 or the great escape. The americans were all shipped out before the great escape. And U571 was supposed to be based on a true story and then right at the end they admit it was all made up as the Americans captured their first enigma machine just after D-Day. I hate war films where the americans are made to be the only victors. Wasn't the bridge in saving private ryan pegasus bridge? if so that was held by our paratroopers. Regards James
We have got to give Mr Spielberg that one. Pegasus Bridge was on the eastern side of the beachead with 101 Airborne on the west. Personally I like Saving Private Ryan, although in real life (I believe) the US Rangers were put ashore by British landing craft.
I can see why people would loath the constant YANKEES ARE IMPORTANT inaccurate things in these movies. I adore "the Great Escape", however. I think that if the Brits made it, it would have been even better, but it's still a solid movie. Plus, the Brits do get lots of attention. Attenburough is amazing, and very true to the character (so said Mr James), and the first half, with the digging and the bribery and such is solid. Honestly, even if the second half goes over the cliff, Hollywood style, I don't know how anyone could deny that that film has a whole lot of good to it. I agree about "Hogan's Heroes", from what little I have seen of it. It's like they took the very worst bits of "Stalag 17", the unfunny, overthetop bits, and magnified them into a years long series. Blah.
We have got to give Mr Spielberg that one. Pegasus Bridge was on the eastern side of the beachead with 101 Airborne on the west. Personally I like Saving Private Ryan, although in real life (I believe) the US Rangers were put ashore by British landing craft. Yes, it was Brits in that part of the beach. Interestingly enough, in the movie, the sailor piloting the landing craft at the start of the movie was actually a Brit, but used an American accent. I can see why people would loath the constant YANKEES ARE IMPORTANT inaccurate things in these movies. I adore "the Great Escape", however. I think that if the Brits made it, it would have been even better, but it's still a solid movie. Plus, the Brits do get lots of attention. Attenburough is amazing, and very true to the character (so said Mr James), and the first half, with the digging and the bribery and such is solid. Honestly, even if the second half goes over the cliff, Hollywood style, I don't know how anyone could deny that that film has a whole lot of good to it. I agree about "Hogan's Heroes", from what little I have seen of it. It's like they took the very worst bits of "Stalag 17", the unfunny, overthetop bits, and magnified them into a years long series. Blah. Most of those movies were made by US companies for US audiences and I highly suspect that most of the fast and loose playing with history has less to do with ignoring the contribution of our Allies and more to do with the bottom line of the film. The producers of the movie want to make damned sure that the 15 year old boys alllllll across the US plop down their money to see the film and have concerns that if they don't show the US Army (or Navy or Air Force...) reaping victories so that they can't insure a profit. I used to dislike Hogan's Heroes until I began to look at it for what it was, a farce, plain and simple. I'm not a major fan of it now, it is what it is. It no more shows or intends to show how life in PoW camps were anymore than Green Acres showed how life was in the rural parts of the US. I guess a better example for you Limeys would be It Ain't Half Hot Mum.
The Ranger unit that was portrayed in Private Ryan was not with the units that landed at Point Du Hoc. It landed on the right side of Ohama Beach with the 28th and 1st Infantry divisions in US landing craft. Don't have the designation and beach code right off but can get it. It generally isn't known as well as the Rangers that stormed the Point Du Hoc cliffs.
C Company, 2nd Ranger Battalion. Landed to the right of A Coy 116th of the 29th ID The Rangers were on Charlie Beach, the Blue and Gray mentioned were on Dog Green. Coy A and B of the 2nd followed Coy C in later waves. Coy E & F, 2nd Ranger Batt climbed Point du Hoc.
I've got an idea. Why don't the British resurrect their movie industry and make war movies to their satisfaction? Jeff from Alabama is right. It's all to do with making a profit. Maybe that's why the British movie industry failed, they didn't have the grasp of the commercial aspect of the industry that the Americans have, ie having to stretch the truth to get bums on seats. Maybe it never recovered from the loss of Sir John Mills. As an Australian, you know who we are, part British, part American and part kangaroo. We are happy with seeing the movie industry as pure entertainment and give thanks for the business acumen and courage of such men as Steven Spielberg. Movies such as Titanic, Pearl Harbour and The Lord of the Rings are devoured with gratitude.