The Sikhs in the British Army thread.

Discussion in 'The Barracks' started by David Layne, Jun 24, 2007.

  1. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    Another silly question.
    Why can't they stop shooting bears!
     
  2. KevinC

    KevinC Slightly wierd

  3. KevinC

    KevinC Slightly wierd

    Another silly question.
    Why can't they stop shooting bears!
    is this a better option then ?:D
    [​IMG]
     
  4. Owen

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  5. Owen

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  6. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    is this a better option then ?:D


    I believe these get heavy when wet, (the hats not the.....)

    But there's always an excuse for a slaughter, from Wiki:

    "Army officials say approximately 100 skins are taken every year from the annual cull of thousands of bears by native Inuit hunters in a Canadian government programme to keep numbers under control."
     
  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I served with a Sikh who was RLC in Bosnia who wore a turban with a RLC cap badge-Personally I didn't give a toss what he wore as long as he was good at his job, and he was.
     
  8. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Surely the point is that regiments wear uniforms and should all be alike ? If the uniform includes a turban then they should all wear it.

    Personally, I'd make the Brigade of Guards drill in General Service caps. That'd wipe the smug expression off their faces.
     
  9. idler

    idler GeneralList

    It wouldn't be quite so bad if the Guards, AAC and R Sigs didn't have different turban styles...
     
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  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    It wouldn't be quite so bad if the Guards, AAC and R Sigs didn't have different turban styles...

    No different to how squaddies wear they berets, amazing how many shapes can be made from the one design.
    :p
     
  11. Roxy

    Roxy Senior Member

    I've worked wth a Sikh in the RAF; he wore a turban with an RAF badge. I never thought about it. It was never an issue.

    Roxy

    Edited to add; if the US military refuses to enlist/commission Sikhs, then (IMHO) they are losing out.
     
  12. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    I would rather have a full Sikh regiment than to see a full bearded turban wearing man marching alongside a bearskin wearing Guardsman - on the pretext that the turban is scared to them - it is NOT sacred...it was instituted after the second Sikh war around 1846
    when they were introduced to the British Army - they complained bitterly that their "KESH" - long hair was sacred and so the British found the Turkish Turbant to cover up their sacred long hair - the KESH is just one of the 5 sacred things the others being"KACHH" = white cotton shorts - "KARA" = steel bracelet - "KANGA " - wooden comb - "KIRPAN" = steel dagger - they have been pulling this Turban conn job for years - and even the MOUNTIES fell for it..
    Cheers
     
  13. sigcollector

    sigcollector Member

    I have meet Sikhs who have shaved off the beard and cut the hair they are still alive....

    I wonder if you get enough brits in india you can start up a Regiment of bear skins ,and claim it is your heritage.

    If you go to a a Sikh Gurudwara (Temple, Church) you have to cover your hair regardless of Nationality, Race or Religion, even if you are bald.
    So why is it so hard for people to follow your own rules and traditions...

    Sounds like you can get awy with anything on Religious grounds now days.
    If not you must be a Racist....


    Next you can have Army Nurses in Burqa.. as it is there religious right....

    Sikh Regiment
    Hindu Regiment
    Muslem Regiment
    Buddhist Regiment
    Communist Regiment


    Now it has started it is here to stay
     
  14. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

    2nd Life Guards -The muster rolls of the period show many foreign names, mainly German, and a considerable number of these were mentioned as musicians under the heading of 'trade before enlistment'. In keeping with the style of the day, there were also several black musicians in the Band, and as late as 1840 the 2nd Life Guards still had three such serving. And rightly so.
     
  15. Owen

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  16. sigcollector

    sigcollector Member

    He is not wearing a turban, it is the item worn underneath the turban. I forget the name.
    You can get the made by Oakley as a Sikh freind of mine has.

    I have worn a Sikh Turban before, my friend put one of his on me, very tight and over the ears.

    I said to nowonder you can never hear what I say...
     
  17. Owen

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  19. Bob Turner

    Bob Turner Senior Member

    First thing, I tend to be very wary of anything the Daily Telegraph says. As my granny used to say of some people, " He says owt but his prayers, and he whistles them." I think the reporter here has been (deliberately?)ambiguous, in short he'd doing a bit of stirring.

    Option one:-The military chiefs float this idea and then go to the Sikh community for their ideas. Option two:-Some; self appointed; representative of the Sikh community approach the military chiefs with the idea of a Sikh regiment.

    I cannot see for the life of me, option one having occurred. If by any stretch of the imagination it did, then I'd have to say sack the lot of them! A regiment built around a religion, is a crazy idea, Catholic and Protestant regiments? Wasn't there some bother the last we tried this?

    To finish off, I agree totally with Owen on this one. it's a non starter.
     
  20. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Letting rip with a Gimpey with a red cross armband on, it could be taken the wrong way.
    http://www.sikharchives.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/canadian_sikh-_soldiers_2006.jpg




    Thats about right-some of the worse soldiers I served with were Canadian - We thought they were American wannabes. Our Canadian SSM thought he was John Wayne from the Green Berets and wanted to bomb everyone - 100% bell end and was a prime candiate for getting someone killed or more likely himself by one of us.
     

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