Having been inspired by the Forum here I am back reading a fair amount of Eastern Front material again and the same thing keeps cropping up as I read it, that the Russians produced 3 versions of an army over the course of the Great Patriotic War. The first version is the pre-war version that was obliterated by the wehrmacht from June - Dec 1941. By the end of the Year the Red Army had undergone a massive transformation. The second version was the one that "bled the Germans White" and was put through the mincer at places like Stalingrad, Leningrad and Kursk. The final version was the Army that threw the Germans out in June 1944 and subesquently overran Eatern Europe and stormed Berlin. I know the timelines are fluid on this but would you guys agree or do you see it as just one army?