The Great Italy Veterans Thread

Discussion in 'Italy' started by Paul Reed, May 30, 2008.

  1. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Try searching with it's correct (German) spelling ("Bataillon" instead of "Battalion" , "Pionier" instead of "Pioneer" for example) and (in the case of German units) drop the initials (such as "Geb.", "Aufk." ,"Nachr.", etc), replacing them with the complete words ("Gebirgs", "Aufklarungs", "Nachrichten", etc)...
    Now that's good advice.
    In a similar vein, I found a while back that using 'танках' when looking for stuff on Russian tanks turns up many more interesting pages. Google translator coming in handy for the results.

    Maybe we do need a 'how to use google' thread?
     
  2. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    It would be a great idea VP!. Well done to Dave for opening up the web for us when searching for German Formations. Great to see all Vets pics up here that you met guys, well done on that.
     
  3. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Thanks for that info Dave - very interesting indeed.
     
  4. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    It was reformed Ger, as 90 Panzer Grenadier Division

    361 Pz Gr Regt was at Cassino.
    I: Plans and Dispositions | NZETC

    Opposite the New Zealanders, Cassino station and town were manned by 211 Regiment (Major F. W. Knuth), with two battalions of its own and a third from 361 Panzer Grenadier Regiment,

    Otmar told us he was wounded at Aquino up the Liri Valley.
     
  6. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Cheers for the info mate! According to Wiki the remnants of the 90th Panzergrenadier division surrendered to the Brazilian Expeditionary force on April 28th 1945
     
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Looking at the picture of John Dudley, I see he has two Gold Wound Stripes on his lower left sleeve.
    I know in the Great War British soldiers wore wound stripes, ( I think 6 is the most I've seen.)

    Were they also issued and worn in WW2?

    Are they still worn in the modern British Army ?
    There's a few serving soldiers who'd be entitled to them .
     
  8. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Brilliant Thread !

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  9. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    He's in Italy at the moment , Gurdijeff sent me this pic of him he took the other day in Sant'Angelo in Theodice, he's on the left (wearing Royal Fusiliers beret) in this group photo with some German paras
     

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  10. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Funny to think this was two years ago - well done Andy for the citation and well done for the updated photo.

    Wonder what vets I will meet on the next trip?
     
  11. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I've just Translated those Co-ords, using grid square wQ.
    Just south of Florence.
    819559 gives, 43° 39' 33'' N 11° 17' 41'' E


    Which is in Strada in Chianti , must be the Strada mentioned in the citation.
    817569 gives 43° 40' 05'' N 11° 17' 30'' E a point just north of Strada.
    I hope that is correct.
     
  12. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Extract from regimental history:

    The Royal Fusiliers: History of the 2nd Battalion in North Africa, Italy & Greece 1943-45, Anon, (Gale & Polden, Aldershot, 1946)

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  13. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Map from history:

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  14. bexley84

    bexley84 Well-Known Member

    I had the privilege of joining a group of Canadian veterans, and their families for the day in May 2009 - the Mignano municipality had a short ceremony of recognition. Unfortunately, I didn't note names. The two gentlemen on the left are John Dudley, who is already mentioned in this thread, and James Hall, ex RTR, who were both with our party.

    Richard
     

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  15. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Owen -
    two things - 1) the Gold wound stripe was in use in WW2 - about two inches long - eigth of an inch wide - worn on lower left cuff.

    2) - the German chap with the PG's at the Cassino station was against the 28th (Maori) bde of the Kiwi's who were supported by the 16/5th lancers of 26th bde - 6th Armoured Div.

    Cheers
     
  16. herosson

    herosson Baby Boomer

    Otmar; Panzer Grenadier. What an amazing thing it would be if he was the soldier who fired the rifle grenade into my father's trench and took off his arm and leg!! That was late March 1944. How and how badly wounded was he in May?
     
  17. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Great thread, how have I missed it?

    I will post details of the Veterans I met during my recent trip to Italy when I have sorted photos out.

    Lesley
     
  18. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Our group had the pleasure of meeting Jack Robertson aged 94, a Veteran of the Royal Engineers of Dufftown, Scotland, who was on our Leger coach for the Italian trip.
    He was one of the engineers who built the longest Bailey bridge over the Sangro River at night under heavy fire in October 1943.
    He had never seen a picture of the bridge he built until Owen found it and sent it to Paul (well done Owen). It was wonderful to see Jack's face when Paul showed him the picture. See here
    http://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2011/11/uk-military-bridging-world-war-ii-italy/

    Paul took us back to the spot where the bridge was built and I took this wonderful photo of Jack.
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  19. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    I saw that bridge last week when I was over on the Sangro. It was a monster.

    FdeP
     
  20. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Fred Mason, Anzio Veteran was on our trip too
    Taken from Paul Reed's Twitter feed[​IMG]
     
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