The First Jet-Propelled Aircraft

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  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  2. MyOldDad

    MyOldDad Senior Member

  3. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    I am always astonished that the people we thought had invented these things - like Whittle and wasisname in Southampton et aL were just miserable thieves - who buried the real facts and took all the credit - I am equally astonished that he was a Rumanian and not American,.....I wonder who came up with "Sputnik" - originaly - couldn;t have been those dumb Russians surely ?

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  4. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Tom,

    I think the answer lies in the fact that while technological research was being carried out by individuals in one country,similar research was being carried out by individuals in another country.For instance,wireless technology research achieved by Marconi and acknowledged as such by the western world, the breakthrough was claimed by the Russians who put forward their own man who achieved Marconi's success at more or less the same date in history.
     
  5. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

  6. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Perhaps a couple of test runs and a few flying lessons might have been a good idea.

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    “Turbo”—the Jet Engine’s Grand-daddy

    The bright idea occurred to lots of people: turn a supercharger into a jet for some real power by opening the back gate. Three people did something about it: Henri Coanda in France, Hans Von Ohain in Germany and Frank Whittle in Great Britain.

    The Frenchman was there first, but he is all but forgotten.

    The first jet aircraft—Henri Coanda’s “Air Reactive Engine”, which flew briefly in 1910 near Paris, France. On display at the Grand Palais in Paris a month before the “flight” Coanda went straight for the back gate. His jet was a crossover of supercharger and afterburner. A four-cylinder gas engine turned the air compressor. More gasoline was added to the compressor’s exhaust for jet thrust. Voila! Power. Coanda claimed 220 kilograms (about 450 pounds) of thrust.

    While adjusting his engine during a test on December 16, 1910, Henri realized his aircraft was moving.

    “Then I looked up and saw the walls of Paris approaching rapidly. There was no time to stop or turn round and I decided to try and fly instead. Unfortunately I had no experience of flying…”The “Air Reactive Engine” took to the sky with a jump—and soon came back down as Coanda tried learning to fly the hard way. He was thrown clear and the aircraft burned. The first jet had flown—very briefly.


    Of course a conventional reciprocating engine turning an axial compressor with some fuel injected is not quite my idea of a jet engine, but one has to start somewhere :p

    This Whittle's first prototype, 1937. Pretty eh? Might pass for the work of Dr. Frankenstein :lol:

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  7. idler

    idler GeneralList

  8. Tab

    Tab Senior Member

    Sir Frank Whittle is the first man that published a work on the jet engine and I think he also took out a patent on it. As usual the RAF were not interested as most of them considered that the propeller and bigger and better engines were the way to go.
     
  9. PA. Dutchman

    PA. Dutchman Senior Member

    We had a ME 262 two seat Trainer restored and only recently moved from our area in Pennsylvania. I was able to get some photos before it was relocated to Florida.

    The black and white is before it was brought to the states. I got that from one of people involved.

    Several men agreed to restore the ME 262 so they could make Blue Prints to build 5 reproductions they sold for ONE million dollars a piece. Messerschmidt helped with the project and one flew over Berlin in 2006 at their Air Show.

    If you go to this site it has the story and the videos can be found of the reproduction ME 262 flying in Berlin.

    STORMBIRDS presents the Me 262 Project
     

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  10. Groundhugger

    Groundhugger Senior Member

    The Heinkel 178 flew on 27 August1939
    as aqainst the Gloster E28/39 on May 15 1941
     
  11. slaphead

    slaphead very occasional visitor

    Thought I'd quickly add my two penneth since I have about 20 minutes spare to catch up on the 20,000 posts since I last logged on

    My main gripe is about von Ohain "co-inventing" the "real" jet engine.
    Basically von Ohain was still in short trousers when Sir Frank published his patent, ergo Frank was first. I'll let Ian Whittle tell the story in this .pdf file from the RAF Historical Society
    http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/documents/Journal%2039.pdf

    by the way, there are some great documents on the site
    RAF Historical Society Journals
     
  12. PA. Dutchman

    PA. Dutchman Senior Member

    Here an on-line Video of the original training film from Germany in WWII

    Me-262 Training Film (1944).#

    There are many other videos of the ME 262 flying at this link.
     

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