The End is Nigh

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  1. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

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  2. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    If you ever want to know where the ISS is at anytime look here (also other heavenly bodies!)
    https://www.heavens-above.com/
    Totally different from a plane as it doesn't have any flashing lights and moves across the sky at quite a rate so you don't have that much time to see it.
     
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  3. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    Actually its the ghosts of HQ Troop 24th Lancers whose tanks were named after the Riders of the Apocalypse.
     
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  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    you see mate,their is always a WW2 link somewhere in the ramblings and maudle of life
     
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  5. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    The late great Ken Wareham told me it felt a bit weird tootling around in a Sherman called Death.
     
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  6. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Spitting Image Four Riders :Lyrics
    When things are looking rosy and you’re feeling fine,
    The skies are blue and it’s sunshine time,
    Don’t forget who’s lurking just outside the door:
    It’s Famine! Death! Plague! And War!

    Mister Happiness is coming round to tea,
    The birds are singing in the tree,
    Don’t forget who’s waiting there just off-stage:
    It’s War! Famine! Death! And Plague!

    'Cause every silver lining has a cloud!
    And it won’t be alright on the night!
    There’s nothing at the end of the rainbow!
    And there’s a tunnel at the end of the line!

    When things are looking really incredibly bad,
    Your manically depressed and (Ha!) kind of sad,
    Don’t forget we haven’t even started yet:
    We’re War! Famine! Plague! And Death!

    'Cause un-happy times are here again!
    The grass is greener on the other side!
    Your ship isn't ever coming in!
    And where there’s a will; someone’s died!

    When good old Uncle Jollity is out-of-town,
    You’re feeling blue and you’re wearing a frown,
    Don’t forget there’s even nastier things a-comin':
    There’s Plague! War! Death! And Famine!

    'Cause every silver lining has a cloud!
    And it won’t be alright on the night!
    There’s nothing at the end of the rainbow!
    And there’s another tunnel at the end of the light!


    Repeat to fade



    Kyle
     
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  7. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

  8. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    On reading the article, I see that it is due to crash into the Pacific Ocean in 2031. Surely, in this day and age and with our advanced navigation know how, we can do better than that. Just put in the co-ordinates of Blogg's Scrapyard in Basildon, Essex, and drop it right in. If it overshoots and takes out some of the local scenary, very few people will notice the difference.
     
  9. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    https://www.basildon.gov.uk/media/4...ppendix_5_-_Heritage.pdf?m=634961984238070000

    "Basildon originates from the Saxon period, and is referenced in the Domesday Book (1086), as Belesduna. The names has subsequently evolved over the centuries, with variations include Berdlesdon, Batledon and Behoter. Basildon developed from a modest hamlet to the East of Lee Chapel, later combining with the larger settlements of Laindon, Vange and Pitsea to the north- west, south and south-east respectively.

    After the Second World War, the Labour Government under the leadership of Clement Atlee, created the New Towns Act 1946, aimed at providing much needed housing to take the strain off London, which was suffering from overcrowding and a shortage of housing due to war damage. In the same year the, Stevenage in Hertfordshire became the first of 11 New Towns to be designated between 1946-51."
     
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  10. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    In the days when Skylab was to come down there was great uncertainty as to the debris site and trail.

    I was in the States at the time and the biggest seller was Tee Shirts with a roundel and the text "Official Government Target"

    Kept the wearer safe from space debris strikes as no government department had ever managed to hit an official target!

    Ross
     
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  11. Ewen Scott

    Ewen Scott Well-Known Member

    Which bits (of the ISS not Basildon !) do you want in which scrapyard?

    Mass - 445 tonnes
    Dimensions - 73m x 109m

    Being a large irregular shaped object made up of many component parts, it will break up as it begins to enter the atmosphere. Different elements will then fall at different rates and have different trajectories. Some will burn up completely, some partially and some not at all to reach Basildon. No scrapman can even guess at the value of what might end up in his yard!

    Think more about what happened to the comet that impacted Jupiter some years back rather than Newton’s apple falling from the tree. Or a MIRV missile warhead without the individual control over each warhead. Or maybe a cluster bomb would be a better analogy!
    Comet Shoemaker–Levy 9 - Wikipedia


    So it could end up taking out bits all over Essex and surrounding parts. On second thoughts.....
     
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  12. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    The centre of WW2 Talk seems to be in the Midlands, Leicestershire and Shropshire rather than Essex... I have speculated that there is a knitting circle involving VP, Owen, etc. which meets at a pub serving home brewed ale and faggots.

    There may be a breaker's yard in Basildon which spells cars as "karz" ( but no Blogg's Scrapyard ) and there is a planning authority so permission may be required ( as per "The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" episode 1 ) but listed building consent is very unlikely to be required. It is rather a dump, much like Harlow, Stevenage, Luton etc. There is an airport at Luton.

    Stansted Airport is the UK Government's preferred destination for dodgy aircraft, planning authority: Uttlesford District Council.

    BBC News | UK | Stansted's hijack history
     
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  13. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Dont forget Hemel Hempstead or even South Oxhey
     
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  14. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    Hemel Hempstead is far too posh. North Weald was suggested as London's Third Airport back in the 1960's, but close to Harlow, which then had a Labour MP called Stan and a Labour Government at the time. Douglas Jay was the man in favour of Stansted.
     
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  15. Ewen Scott

    Ewen Scott Well-Known Member

    Isn’t it all just “London” down there?

    Collects hat and coat and heads for the door!:D
     
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  16. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    I spent several years working with the homeless in Basildon back in the 1990s and it was pretty rough then. I cannot believe that it has improved since. It was around the time of the Leah Betts drug death and the Essex boy murders which came after.

    I have particulary fond memories of some of the characters from the Vange estate and frankly, whatever remains of the I.S.S. solid or fragmentary, fell in the Basildon area I would shed no tears.
     
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  17. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    In my part of Essex under the Stansted and Luton aircraft paths everybody thinks it is South Cambridgeshire.

    We used to have a dog that ran up the street carrying a newspaper. One day it carried a joint of meat.

    There was a chap who spoke little English who grew vegetables, mostly cabbage and caulifower, on his allotment and would push a handcart selling his produce. Impossible today.

    Bring back hydrogen airships is my idea for the future of flight, so take no notice....
     
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  18. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    ha ha yes it is
    Mind you most of London looks like it has been hit by space debris at the moment
     
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  19. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    HEED DEVO BEWARE SPACE JUNK
     
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  20. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    Just supposing the ISS could land like an ordinary aircraft, Essex has other places than Basildon to accommodate it. Back in March 1962....

    From TNA file refererence AVIA 119/4

    “Committee on the Third London Airport

    R.A.F. Airfields near London
    The following is an extract from a letter to the Secretary of the Committee from Mr. H.A. Shaw, Air Ministry:
    “ I enclose a list of airfields mostly within 50 miles of London, but a few of them a little further, which it seems convenient to have on the record. The list is in two parts - airfields up for disposal now, or likely within the foreseeable future, and those which on present indications we shall need to keep for long-term defence requirements.”

    TLAP1 ed.jpg

    TLAP2 Ed.jpg
     
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