The Bren Gun

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by jimbotosome, Dec 29, 2005.

  1. spider

    spider Very Senior Member

    The good thing about the L4 was you didn't need an asbestos glove to change the barrel
     
  2. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    Tom, I have just got hold of a copy of the "The Bren
    Light Machine Gun" by Gale & Polden Ltd Aldershot.
    In section 2 it says after firing ten magazines at the
    RAPID rate the barrel should be changed. This operation
    takes a trained man 6 to 8 seconds. Thereare other
    interesting points within this book. Section 3 reads
    that the 30 round magazine can be filled by hand in
    40 seconds...well I have just had a go at this with
    30 inert rounds and could only manage a best time
    of 1 min 5 secs :D. They issued a magazine filler
    that could load a 30 round magazine in 20 seconds.

    I found this short story at link below of the problems
    using the Bren in hot climates

    short story - The Bren Gun | Toowrite


    Since I had been shewn by my Father how to stalk and shoot and indeed supplement our pantry or larder with fresh meat, to wit, wild rabbits, hares, pheasant etc, I did not learn a lot more about guns until later when the Bren gun, which could also used as a machine gun, by flipping a small lever was introduced. However since the Middle east is warmer than Britain the four holes in the gas regulator had to be reset when it was found that the gun now in the Middle East would not repeat with the gas regulator set at the No 2 port since the sun beating down could fry eggs on the mudguard of our trucks and had warmed the Bren gun and on firing a couple of rounds it suddenly appeared not to have enough gas to punch the piston back to reload itself due to being now too hot, so the cocking handle had to be used to reload the gun.
    I found that by turning the gas regulator to, “Position three” made the gun work as an automatic weapon as designed, but the kickback or recoil was more violent, and on perusing a now used target one got the impression that a twelve gauge shot gun had indeed been used to make the holes in it all over the place instead of a neat group around the bull’s eye. Since the Bren gun had a bipod support under the barrel it was very accurate on single shots and indeed in the U.K. where the sun was not as hot as the Middle East the Bren gun was pretty good as an automatic weapon and could chew out the bull’s eye from a target. I am writing this because in all the War yarns I have read so far there is no mention of this Bren Gun heat problem. During W.W.1. I think it is common knowledge to most how the water cooled Vickers machine guns were cooled when there were no water pumps or taps handy.
    Tom Barker. Ex 1st Bn A & S Highlanders W.W.2.
     
  3. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    My dad was a Bren gunner in the 6th Division AIF - 19th brigade - 2/8th Battalion. I asked him once about the Bren.

    He said you could virtually shoot the same bloke three times or three of his mates in quick succession - very very accurate.

    I had never thought more about this until the day we buried him in 1982. Members of his battalion attended and said that if not for dad, they would be dead. They were caught in the open by an Italian machine gun post (Taking Tobruk 21st January 1941) and dad put it out of commission. A few hours later dad was put out of the war by a mortar.

    He had never mentioned this to mum and never held a weapon again.
     
  4. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

  5. Beerhunter

    Beerhunter Junior Member

    and it had a high rate of fire
    Compared to what? The Bren actually had a competitively slow rate of fire (CRoF c. 540 rpm) compounded by the need to change magazines.

    Having fired, in my time, .303 MkIV, 7.62 L4Axs and GPMG, I can confirm that from experience, out of all of them my favorite was the L4A4.
     
  6. sapper

    sapper WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Slow in comparison to the enemy weapons They could cut you in half....It did happen ! But very accurate. carried it across Normandy Belgium and Holland. My short bursts were a pattern of five dead.....Dead accurate.
    Never thiought about the weight then...... Some one brought in a deactivated army rifle....... I could not lift it now.
    Stone me am I getting old?
    Sapper
     
  7. Marco

    Marco Senior Member

    Hello chaps,

    Is the soldier in the picture below standing behind a brengun with a drum magazine or am I barking up the wrong tree?

    TIA!

    [​IMG]
     
  8. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    Nope, there was a drum magazine issued for the Bren, for AA work...and I see it's on an AA tripod mount in that pic ;) ...but I don't know how common it was.
     
  9. Ropi

    Ropi Biggest retard of all

    It was also used on tanks, as AA/commander's MG. It was even shipped to Russia this way.
    Arthur
     
  10. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

  11. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    There's a huuuuge thread on here somewhere about it with lots of pics :D

    Where was the pic taken?

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  12. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

  13. Marco

    Marco Senior Member

    Thanks chaps, so it is a bren. Picture was taken in the Liberty park (former War Museum, PC you know...) Overloon, Netherlands by the way.

    Regards,

    Marco
     
  14. Jaeger

    Jaeger Senior Member

    For me the Bren is a good weapon. I still prefer the belt fed MG 42 since it works better with the battledrills I am used to.
     
  15. Coke

    Coke Junior Member

    Hello guys, I am new to this forum. I have heard the Bren had a reputation of oftenly jamming, is that true? I also thought the Bren's firing speed were too slow for a support weapon. If I mention anything wrong, please do tell me(via pm or any means)
     
  16. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    See post #56.
     
  17. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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