Dismiss Notice

You must be 18 or over to participate here.
Dismiss this notice to declare that you are 18+.

Anyone below 18 years of age choosing to dishonestly dismiss this message is accepting the consequences of their own actions.
WW2Talk.Com will not approve of, or be held responsible, for your choices.

The Besa Machine Gun

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Uncle Target, Aug 30, 2019.

  1. JDKR

    JDKR Senior Member

    The mention of ‘IA’ brings memories. tumbling back...GPMG IA training went something like this:

    “Gun firing alright. Gun STOPS!”
    “Butt in the shoulder. Working parts to the rear. Lower the butt. Open the top cover. Clear the feed tray. Open the feed tray. On looking inside you see...[stoppage details then described from which hapless gunner has to make decision on what subsequent drill to follow].

    All etched in my memory, which probably explains why I tend to forget to get the car taxed, walk the dog, mow lawn etc etc.
     
    Tricky Dicky likes this.
  2. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    Just so long as you don't mow the dog
     
  3. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor

    Weapons a bit like mobile phones reveal clues to ones age. Lewis Gun, Bren, LMG, GPMG, no LSW yet.
     
    ossie262 likes this.
  4. ceolredmonger

    ceolredmonger Member

    From the rest of the sequence - the Besa looks Carrier mounted. There is a .30 Browning on a similar Carrier featured twice - appears to be badged with AoS 174. This AoS is problematic to the resources I have to hand as it was 144 RAC when they operated Shermans in 33 Brigade which this clearly isn't. I'll need to consult my better sources when home.
     
  5. JDKR

    JDKR Senior Member

    On reflection, it’s possible the Besa shown in the clip was taken from a Cromwell of 6th Airborne Recce Regt. Why? By this stage of the advance the regiment’s armoured squadron had lost most, if not all, of its Cromwells and this resulted in the division having to be allocated 15 (Scottish) Recce Regt to conduct its mechanised recce. The Cromwells’ Besas would therefore have been available and the paras would not have been slow in grabbing them to beef up their fire power.
     
  6. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    That is certainly possible. I looked at some online accounts of the operation in question, and 4th Grenadiers of 6th Gds Tank Bde were along to give support, so maybe they had a spare Besa or two.
     
  7. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    I've shot a bow and handled a Brown Bess.
     
    Dave55 likes this.
  8. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor

    Found this today
    Welcome
    Industry
    Needle Industry
    Fish hook industry
    Spring Industry inc Terry Anglepoise
    Motorcycle
    Nickel Cadnium Battery
    High Duty Alloys


    Click or roll the mouse to change page.

    Britannia Batteries
    Royal Enfield
    BSA
    publications
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2023
  9. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA Patron

    Tower flintlock for me :)
     
  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Royal Armouries & The Chieftain chat BESA:

     
    Don Juan, Chris C and TTH like this.
  11. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    Not mentioned in the video or the thread: the 15mm variant of the Besa which was the main armament of the Light Tank Mk VI and Humber armoured cars Marks I-III. Why 15mm? Does anyone know why that calibre was chosen?
     
  12. Don Juan

    Don Juan Well-Known Member

    In case anyone was wondering what the liaison between the Royal Arsenal, BSA, and the Czechs was like:

    Besa.jpg
     
    TTH and von Poop like this.
  13. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I wish we had a 'love' button.
    Superb.

    Also... we probably need a WW2 Windmill thread.
    :unsure:
     
    Don Juan likes this.
  14. chrisgrove

    chrisgrove Senior Member

    Sorry, Uncle Target, but 2nd IA on the Bren involved adjusting the gas regulator, not changing the barrel! Admittedly you had to disengage the barrel to do it.
    Chris
     
  15. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    I concur. My favorite 1950s pinup was June Wilkinson, who died not long ago. She had great tracts of land and became one of Playboy's most popular models. She was English of course and she began her fleshy career at the Windmill when she was only about fifteen. She was a very bright woman who had a career as a journalist after her modeling days.
    June early.jpg June Wilkinson at the Windmill.jpg
     
  16. Wg Cdr Luddite

    Wg Cdr Luddite Well-Known Member

    We definitely need a pin-ups thread.
     
    TTH likes this.
  17. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    That's for another site, I think.
     
    Chris C likes this.
  18. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA Patron

    TTH likes this.

Share This Page