The Battle and Massacre of Wormhout - 28th May 1940

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  1. Rosie1066

    Rosie1066 Member

    My dad was a Gunner in 210 Battery, (Worcester Yeomanry) 53 A/T, Royal Artillery who were attached to the Warwickshire’s AA2CF5AA-3E81-455E-8277-7A5B7500456A.jpeg .
     
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  2. ROMMELAERE

    ROMMELAERE Member

    I am now connected but it is difficult to write in english...
    For Drew, I heard that a british is looking for the officer who is buried unknow at Esquelbecq british cemetery ; he will be Piers Richard EDGECUMBE, son of the 5th Earl of Edgecumbe.
    Cordialement
     
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  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Hi Guy

    Nice to see you here-We exchanged emails sometime ago regarding Edgecumbe and Webber in Esquelbecq. I believe it is Edgecumbe in the Unknown Grave next to Webber from files I have and the account in your book about Webber's death in the farmhouse. Sadly not enough evidence to get Edgecumbe's name engraved on the unknown headstone next to Webber.

    I think the key to identifying him may be in local French records from when the bodies were found and buried?

    Regards
    Andy
     
  4. ROMMELAERE

    ROMMELAERE Member

    Hello Andy,
    The problem is that the british made mistakes when they are writing stories and located them at false towns....
    For exemple : the massacre of Wormhout... in fact it is Esquelbecq
    The two soldiers killed at the café "le repos des chasseurs" (Hunters rest) were killed and buried at Zegers Cappel (the other side of the main road), not Esquelbecq.
    They were exhumed on 26 november 1942 by town people of Zegers and buried at Esquelbecq british cemetery.
    I found the minutes of the exhumation and I can said that the officer unknown had blond hair and a particulary and located dentition with 5 gold teeth (I have the drawing).
    The officer is buried following WEBER who was with the officer.
    is it enough ?
    Cordialement
     
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  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    This is good news. The teeth may be enough. Were there any personal possessions with the body?
     
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  6. ROMMELAERE

    ROMMELAERE Member

    no, only the clothes are noting :
    veste en cuir avec boutons et 4 poches
    blouson avec fermeture éclair, doublure à carreaux, lignes bleues sans manche
    bas apparemment de sports
    no trousers !!??
     
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  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Y a-t-il des badges sur les boutons qui pourraient identifier le regiment?
     
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  8. idler

    idler GeneralList Patron

    You have to hope that CWGC never saw the exhumation report and never exhumed him themselves so that a negative dental ID has never been made.
    Despite all that negativity, I am trying to be positive...
     
  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Salut Guy
    Serait-il possible de m'envoyer une copie des écritures(de la paperasserie) que vous avez constatées pour moi regarder ? Si vous êtes heureux de partager ce nouvel infomation je contacterai le Ministère de la Défense et la Commission de Tombes de Guerre de Commonwealth pour chercher des conseils quant à ses dossiers dentaires pour la comparaison.

    Respects
    Andy
     
  10. ROMMELAERE

    ROMMELAERE Member

    Give me your adresse mail
     
  11. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    M. Rommelaere, merci de participer à ce forum anglophone et bien sûr de tous vos efforts pour attirer l'attention sur ces événements.

    I hope that with the steps now being taken, it will be possible to prove once and for all if Piers Edgcumbe lies in the un-named grave at Esquelbecq.

    British Army records usually include a dental treatment and record card which may prove definitive in this case - such as this one:-

    Scannen0007 (2).jpg
     
  12. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    This advice may help;-
    https://assets.publishing.service.g...sue_15-JSP_751-Volume_2-_Redacted_Version.pdf
    Kyle
     
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  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive


    drew5233 at hotmail.com

    Merci
     
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    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

  15. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Andy,
    You may want to remove the @ and replace it with `at` in your address. Spammers and crawlers?

    Kyle
     
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  16. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Kyle - you have to remember Drew's not good with techno stuff - wasnt there a problem not long back with some files? :rolleyes::whistle:

    TD
     
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  17. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Too late - I've received over 60 emails this afternoon from a religious group ffs !
     
  18. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    You kids of today will never learn o_O:wacko:

    TD
     
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  19. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

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  20. ROMMELAERE

    ROMMELAERE Member

    Hello,
    No problem - the house behind the armoured car is "au repos des chasseurs", a small bistrot at the time on the roman road - town of Zegers Cappel.
    I send the same armoured car taken on the other side. We can see two holes....

    Cordialement - Guy Zegers Cappel guy armoured car-001.jpg
     
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