Symbols of different types of German anti-aircraft guns

Discussion in 'NW Europe' started by Nijmegen, Mar 5, 2014.

  1. Nijmegen

    Nijmegen Member

    Is there anybody on the forum that recognizes these symbols? They represent different types of anti-aircraft guns, that is what I know. But which types?

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    Any information would be helpful an appreciated!
     
  2. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

  3. Nijmegen

    Nijmegen Member

    Oops!

    I forgot to mention that the symbols are BRITISH!!
     
  4. Packhow75

    Packhow75 Senior Member

    The Defence overlay reference is often printed on the reverse of many British/Allied maps - the data can also be found in the Field Service Pocket Book.

    I dont have access to either tonight - but can have a rummage tomorrow if you've not had a suitable answer.

    Tim
     
  5. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place.... Patron

    From memory:
    Outer left = 3 x light guns (Unconfirmed) (20mm??)
    Inner left = 6 x heavy guns (Unconfirmed) (88 mm??)
    Inner right =3 x light guns in an emplacement (20mm?)
    Outer fight = 1 x LMG
     
  6. Nijmegen

    Nijmegen Member

    Thank you Sheldrake,

    :) It would be nice to have as much as possible information...
     
  7. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place.... Patron

    The definitive document is the section 6 of the Field Services pocket book military symbols. This hasn't been uploaded onto the internet. There is a summary in the FSB itself, but it does not go into the level of detail to specify different calibres of AA gun.
     
  8. Nijmegen

    Nijmegen Member

    :(
     
  9. Sheldrake was very close. From left to right:

    Three light AA Guns - less than 50 mm (u=unoccupied)
    Six heavy AA Guns - over 75mm (u=unoccupied)
    Three light AA Guns in open position - less than 50mm
    Light AA MG (no indication of calibre, but another symbol exists for medium AA MG)

    The remaining symbol, for medium AA Guns (50-75mm), is intermediate between light & heavy, i.e. with a single horizontal bar joining the two vertical ones (forming a 'H').

    The exact position of the guns on the map here is the Middle of the Base of the symbol, i.e. the point where the long vertical bar meets the bottom of the circle.

    As for the exact caliber, it is sometimes specified beside the symbol:
    "Calibres will always be annotated in millimetres
    Number of guns written below symbol, calibre written on left of symbol"

    See for example the "Martian Defence Legend" from ONEAST ONE:
    http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2163/13087537163_537eb0f8ce_o.jpg

    Michel
     
  10. Nijmegen

    Nijmegen Member

    Thanks Michel! It is always nice to get help from people like you!
     
  11. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place.... Patron

    Thanks so from all the symbols we have

    three light flak guns and one MG

    and

    holes in the ground that might provide cover for three Light flak guns and six heavy flak guns.
     
  12. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

  13. Nijmegen

    Nijmegen Member

    Thanks very much Wills!
     
  14. TiredOldSoldier

    TiredOldSoldier Senior Member

    Wonder what the "medium" AA guns were, very few counties fielded AA guns between 57 and 75mm in WW2 and the old 3" and 75mm would probably qualify as heavy as they were the heaviest available when in service.
     

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