Swords into Ploughshares. (With Sword of Stalingrad digression)

Discussion in 'Germany' started by von Poop, Sep 10, 2007.

  1. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

  2. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique MOD

    Interesting! I have seen pots like that in French car boot sales...

    Imagine if we had all those helmets in the early photos - we could also finance that Churchill Croc, Adam!
     
  3. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Just checked some militaria sites and I see what you mean.
    They're not exactly £20 anymore are they!
    (yet another thing I should have bought years ago... a tatty Churchill's going to cost a million quid in 10 years time at this rate :()

    Wonder how you could tell if an old pan was a conversion? The caption for the 5th picture said he was welding the vent holes closed. Perhaps traces of that could be a 'recognition feature'.
     
  4. idler

    idler GeneralList Patron

    This seemed like a good place to post today's find, so please excuse the bump.
    Flicking through the Country Life Picture Book of Britain in Colour c1957, I found this picture of a 'Landing Craft Domestic':

    http://ww2talk.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=22477&d=1258247894

    An American version is here.
     
  5. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    Idler - here in Northern Ireland I could take you to the almost-disappeared wreck of one of those! Left rusting in the surf and seaweed MANY years ago, I've watched it rust away slowly year by year...

    Wonder how you could tell if an old pan was a conversion?


    Doesn't matter if WE can or can't...only matters if the BUYER can't!

    Car booties here I come! :D
     
  6. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

  7. urqh

    urqh Senior Member

    I seem to remember the opposite being true and have a pic somewhere of plougshares or at least pots and pans or similar being forged into the sword of Stalingrad we presented to Ivan.
     
  8. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    or at least pots and pans or similar being forged into the sword of Stalingrad we presented to Ivan.



    ....had to do SOMETHING with all that crappy, useless metal that was collected! :lol:
     
  9. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    No, not quite. I remember seeing the Stalingrad sword in an Illustrated London News or some such. A fine affair. Later on I found that during the presentation ceremony that jackass Marshal Voroshilov was already rather tipsy on account of all the toasting, and when handed the sword just dropped it!

    The SWORD OF STALINGRAD
    THE SWORD OF STALINGRAD
    Sword of Stalingrad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/fs/new/stalingrg/stalingrad_eng.htm

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    Also an interesting snippet :)

    QUEEN ELIZABETH - HONOURARY CITIZENSHIP

    The City Council of Volgograd has decided to bestow honourary citizenship on the British Queen Mother Elizabeth the Queen Mother. Our correspondent Viktoria Ulianenko has the details:

    The honorary title comes as a tribute to the Queen Mother on the occasion of her birth centenary to be marked later this year. Also this year we mark the 55th anniversary of victory over Nazi Germany in the Second World War. During the war Queen Elizabeth, the wife of King George VI, was engaged in public activities, visiting hospitals and helping people whose homes were destroyed in Nazi bombings.

    During the war Britain regularly chanelled aid to Stalingrad, as Volgograd was called at the time. In the fall of 1942, when defenders of Stalingrad were engaged in a fierce fighting, the British city of Coventry sent them a telegram expressing admiration for their heroism. Your example, the telegram said, inspires every honest person to rise against the common enemy. During the Battle of Stalingrad Queen Elizabeth along with the wife of Prime Minister Churchill, Clemetina, collected parcels with warm clothes and food and sent them to the city's defenders. The "Battle of Stalingrad" Museum in Volgograd prides itself on an exhibit - a beautiful sword decorated with an inscription saying it was given by King George VI to Stalingrad's residents, strong as steel, in a sign of the deep respect of the British people. Britain's was not only moral aid to Stalingrad. The British people raised large amounts of money for the restoration of hospitals, a telephone exchange station and several electricity lines. When the Soviet Army crushed Nazi troops in the battle of Stalingrad, her Majesty sent Stalingrad's residents money from her private funds.

    Volgograd Mayor Yuri Chekhov had this to say: "Queen Elizabeth and King George made a considerable contribution to the restoration of Stalingrad. We'll always be grateful to their country for its support. This explains our decision to confer the title of Volgograd's Honorary Citizen on Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother."

    Hurrah for the old girl, may she rest in peace!
     
  10. urqh

    urqh Senior Member

    Got a pic of it being hand made see if I can get it online..must be the oldest forger tghy could find ..looks like jed out of Beverley hillbillies.
     
  11. urqh

    urqh Senior Member

    Sorry ZA Im having technology probs putting up pics. I no longer use a pc so in short term I mail pics and attachments until Iget answer from crapberry and nakier. If you want to see pic of Jed Clampet forging sword Ican email it or its on page 73 talking about the war by anne valery.
     
  12. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

  13. urqh

    urqh Senior Member

    Blimey thats nothing like the pic I have..mines colour..smaller sword and an older gentleman dressed in what looks like his night cap..something a little fishy or propagandy here methinks.
     
  14. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Thanks very much Urqh, you can email it to me and I'll post it here for you. See PM.

    Cheers!
     
  15. urqh

    urqh Senior Member

    Sent mate not great quality. straight from a book.
     
  16. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    So this is Urqh's pic. Damn, could have scanned the caption as well :)

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  17. urqh

    urqh Senior Member

    In fact...mrs says it looks like me..I had a hard paper boy job when I was a kid.
     
  18. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  19. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Unbelievable! And I'd never seen Budienny so up close :)
     
  20. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Idler - here in Northern Ireland I could take you to the almost-disappeared wreck of one of those! Left rusting in the surf and seaweed MANY years ago, I've watched it rust away slowly year by year...



    Doesn't matter if WE can or can't...only matters if the BUYER can't!

    Car booties here I come! :D
    Could I enquire where its located Phylo? Would be interested in seeing it! :D
     

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