Strange Wehrmacht collar tabs?

Discussion in 'Axis Units' started by Jools Mckenna, Apr 17, 2018.

  1. Jools Mckenna

    Jools Mckenna Member

  2. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    I would hazard a well educated guess that they are Freikorps post WW1.
    Lots of different units with different styles.
    Regards
    Tom
     
  3. Jools Mckenna

    Jools Mckenna Member

    I would think they would be Wehrmacht because of the eagle on the cap of the officer.
     
  4. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey Patron

    A group of Soviet troops, one wearing a captured German cap and others with German helmets?
     
  5. Jools Mckenna

    Jools Mckenna Member

    They are wearing German belts, shoulder straps and drinking out of german canteens, so unlikely but possible.
     
  6. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Are those belt buckles German? They look `round` to me (Back row) Only officers had round the rest were rectangular ?

    Kyle
     
  7. Jools Mckenna

    Jools Mckenna Member

    well, they are wearing officer style laced shoulder boards, so it might be a group of officers or it's the belt buckle of a member of Staatsforstbeamte.
     
  8. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I can only thank you for posting, Jools.
    Had an enjoyable hour going around the houses to no avail, I'm afraid.
    All the above plausible, been through assorted Hiwis, really beginning to suspect some sort of civic or police chaps.

    Would you mind if I shared it to a largish Twitter following to see if anyone has any thoughts there?
     
  9. Jools Mckenna

    Jools Mckenna Member

    No problems. Just tell me if the insignia is identified.
     
  10. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Staatsforstbeamte are they Forestry workers? Looking at those tunics I can really see where Tom suggested Freikorps ? Those tunics appear to have concealed buttons similar to the ww1 pattern but they have breast pockets? Confusing :)

    Kyle
     
  11. Jools Mckenna

    Jools Mckenna Member

    I know everything seems to be in disarray uniform wise.
     
  12. Jools Mckenna

    Jools Mckenna Member

    Also can you link your twitter.
     
  13. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

  14. Jools Mckenna

    Jools Mckenna Member

  15. Jools Mckenna

    Jools Mckenna Member

    Very similar Hungarian uniform
     

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  16. hucks216

    hucks216 Member

    There doesn't appear to be a single chest or arm eagle among them and the collar tabs have what looks like buttons on them so not Wehrmacht. I would agree with the possibility that they are Hungarian.
     
  17. Jools Mckenna

    Jools Mckenna Member

    This photo is quite confusing as
    1) They are wearing Hungarian(?) tunics and collar tabs but are wearing German helmets (Hungarian helmets didn't have decals) and their shoulder boards don't match up to other Hungarian uniforms
    2) The officer of the group wears a German Officers cap and his collar tabs should be different to the others if he's Hungarian but they are the same.
     
  18. hucks216

    hucks216 Member

    I can't see the one wearing a visor being a German officer as Heer & Luftwaffe officer visors had silver cords and not a black strap as seen in the photo. Kriegsmarine however did have black straps on officers visors (and NCO ones).

    Has the national colour shield decal been superimposed on to the picture? It seems brighter than the rest of the image.
     
  19. Jools Mckenna

    Jools Mckenna Member

    No, I have the original and I can tell you it hasn't. I think its the sun shining on the decal and the light being reflected.
     
  20. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    With the mis-match of uniforms etc they look even more like para military than ever ? Toms Freikorps suggestion still seems a decent shout ? Perhaps not immediately post WW1 maybe on the lines of the Sudetendeutsches Freikorps ? 1938 ? Backed by Hitler to destabilise Czechoslovakia ? Similar tunics on these 1919 Freikorps?

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    Kyle
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2018

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