St. Venant War Crime against DLI during May 1940

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  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Anyone know what happened here in, I assume, 1940?

    It will be a war crime of some sort, I suspect on British Soldiers.

    The perpetrators appear to be from a Coy in the II Battalion of SS Germania of which a chap called Laubscheer was the CO.

    The above details are mentioned in a Wormhout related File from Kew.
     
  2. idler

    idler GeneralList

    The action seems to concern mainly 1 Royal Welch Fusiliers wit 2 DLI and some Berkshires joining in later to hold a canal crossing. Summary here with a mention of Germania.
    The account gives great scope for 'heat of the moment' incidents as it has all the trappings of a last stand. Of course, plenty of wounded and prisoners would have been available to mistreat but neither the DLI or RWF histories mention anything of that nature.
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    I've found some more back ground information in the files....I'll post it up later but it is rather grim.
     
  4. idler

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  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    On or about the 28th May 1940, the following attrocities were committed against British soldiers by members of German SS units:

    (a) One British soldier shot by SS soldier.
    (b) Soldier clubbed to death by two German soldiers.
    (c) Soldier shot by German.
    (d) Soldier shot and clubbed by three Germans.
     
  6. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Rather interesting how there is no details around the 27th/28th/29th May in his diary. The SS-Verf├╝gungstruppe is responsible for the murders at Nieppe Forest.
     
  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Rather interesting how there is no details around the 27th/28th/29th May in his diary. The SS-Verf├╝gungstruppe is responsible for the murders at Nieppe Forest.

    Sorry, my mistake it was Der Fuehrer at Nieppe.
     
  8. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Kallmeyer 24 May:
    "We advanced on the left along Saint Venant. A slightly wounded Tommy stands up in his trench with his arms in the air. The horror and the fear are reflected in his face. Unfortunately, G. and D. over reacted and hit the Tommy in the face with a grenade. Then the Englishman was collected by the orderly and is taken back behind our lines."

    Off-topic: note the odd use of AA as an abbreviation for 88 (acht-acht). Almost makes me want to start an urban myth that this is the source of 'ack-ack' and see how far it spreads?
     
  9. Verrieres

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    In the meantime - the view from the other side.

    And an epilogue to 2 DLI's involvement.



    I have the book `In Search of Tom` within it there is an account By Pte James `Dusty` Miller (2DLI) of his capture and refers to a severe beating he received when he was wounded / captured from an un-named German SS Unit in the area before being taken to hospital..

    Verrieres
     
  10. Verrieres

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    Had an enquiry from a gentleman whose father served with 2DLI he stated his father had been captured at St Venant and spent the war as a PoW,before his capture his batman was slightly wounded and once captured was split from the main group it was assumed that he had been taken to hospital for treatment.However after the war this boys mother wrote asking for details of how her son was killed in action on the 29th May 1940 something this gentlemans father found most distressing because this was the day they had been captured and the boys wounds were minor and not at all life threatening a flesh wound to the neck and two minor wounds to his legs...he suspected that this boy had been shot by his captures but never did know for sure.

    Verrieres
     
  11. Verrieres

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    The batmans name was Pte Anthony Corkhill 4449147 2nd Battalion The Durham Light Infantry he was the son of Joseph and Mary Corkhill, of Scotswood, Newcastle-on-Tyne.Apparently the Red Cross visited other 2nd DLI men in 1943 regarding Corkhills fate/circumstances of his capture. Drew does your documents give any names or clues to their identity?

    Verrieres
     
  12. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    The batmans name was Pte Anthony Corkhill 4449147 2nd Battalion The Durham Light Infantry he was the son of Joseph and Mary Corkhill, of Scotswood, Newcastle-on-Tyne.Apparently the Red Cross visited other 2nd DLI men in 1943 regarding Corkhills fate/circumstances of his capture. Drew does your documents give any names or clues to their identity?

    Verrieres

    It was only briefly mentioned in a Wormhout file Jim. I suspect there is a whole investigation file on this incident at kew.

    A
     
  13. Heimbrent

    Heimbrent Well-Known Member

    Off-topic: note the odd use of AA as an abbreviation for 88 (acht-acht). Almost makes me want to start an urban myth that this is the source of 'ack-ack' and see how far it spreads?

    Did you find that AA in a German source? Otherwise I assume it has been translated to English, as you find in other sources.
     
  14. idler

    idler GeneralList

    It's from a German soldier's diary, linked on my earlier post but, to be fair, not described as such. Just one of those little things that stands out.
     
  15. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Just found this bit of info on the incident in a Wormhout file:

    Although no names of perpetrators can be given as yet, it is known that these belong to a certain Company in II Battalion/Regiment Germania, of which Doerfler-Schuband was Bn. Cmd. It is quite likely that the Company in question was the one commanded by Laubscheer, who should be able to help us a great deal in the investigations. Both Doerfler-Schuband and Laubscheer were traced in American camps in Germany and Laubscheer has now arrived at the LDC.

    Further progress reports will be issued at regular intervals as soon as the prisoners asked for arrive at LDC and interrogations have been started.

    LDC
    13 Sept 46
     
  16. acorkhill

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  17. acorkhill

    acorkhill Junior Member

    Verrieres, I have written a reply but may have sent it to the wrong post due to being rather new to this. Anthony Corkhill was my uncle after whom I am named.
    I have asked for any further information to be passed on to me ,please.

    I am interested in your reference to the 'file at kew' and would be pleased to learn anything of this.
     
  18. Verrieres

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    Hi Anthony,
    Welcome to the Forum. The information I have (I assume you have visited my web-site Behind The Wire Section) came from the son of the senior NCO for whom your uncle was batman he states when he left your uncle he had minor wounds to both legs and neck but was quite well apart from this .RSM Goddard wished to take Anthony with them but the German soldiers present refused and said their field hospital units were in the area and would take care of him .Indeed RSM Goddard came across stretcher bearers shortly after they had been marched off and directed them to his location.RSM Goddard assumed your uncle had been taken to hospital and was shocked when red cross officials visited him in the Camp with the news that there was no record of Anthonys capture or treatment.
    Jim
     
  19. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    I wonder if there is a War Crimes file on this incident or if it was closed before it was opened so to speak.

    Regards
    Andy
     
  20. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

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